It wasn't all that long ago that the (until recently secret) Florida felon list was shown to be massively flawed in a pro-Republican way. Data errors my ass.

From what I've seen, it's clear that the State of Florida really fucked up this year regarding the felon list. Based on that, I wouldn't be surprised if the fuck-ups Dana mentioned did occur. But I haven't seen anything other than conspiracy theory-type items regarding those issues.

Not me...I'm voting for John Kerry because I think he'll be a better president than Bush, not just because I hate Bush.

I'll go with 1 and 5. With the corollary that I will have to endure the celebrations of my boss.

On the other hand, if Bush wins, the other manager and I have plans to sneak in early and plaster his office with pro-Bush banners and such. hehehe

If it's true, so what? By definition (except in really unusual circumstances) the presidential challenger is always less well-known on the national level than the incumbent. How many Republicans were sitting home pining for George W. Bush to get into the White House in, say, December of 1999? Most voters probably hadn't really heard of any of the candidates... W probably had more name recognition than the rest just because of his dad. In 1992 people thought Bush Sr. had screwed up and they wanted him out. In 1980 they wanted Carter out. If George H. "voodoo economics" W. Bush had won the Republican nomination in 1980, would Republican partisans have sat home because their hero Reagan was not in the race? The most flaming liberal voters supported Dean and Kucinich (sorry, I probably spelled that wrong) in this primary cycle. Are they supposed to vote for Bush because Kerry won the nomination instead?

Republicans are famous for loyalty to their party. How come that's all of a sudden a bad thing when Democrats start doing it?

Oh, I never answered the question.

I suspect I'll be having several stiff drinks no matter who wins.

And no matter who wins, if there is even the smallest hint of irregularity in any election results in any county, even if it isn't significant enough numerically to have changed the outcome of the race, then we're all a bunch of complete idiots if we don't immediately force every government official of every party to clean house with respect to voting procedures.

Colorado just prduced it's own new list of "felins".........uh-oh. Coloradans don't make datea mstkes on purrpose thogh so im not worried. :eek: oooopsy....

Thanks monkey.



Sneaky so and so's. :mad:

I didn't say it was a bad thing...what I stated was that I found it interesting that some - not all - people will back a candidate, simply because he's the one their party chose, and don't explore the issues...they vote the party.

I have a somewhat checkered trend in my own voting history - because I vote for the issues, not the party. (Which is how I personally think it should be done...YMAYVMV)

So what? :confused:

What is, "One of the greatest jazz songs ever," Alex.

I think you can say you're voting against Bush and be informed of the issues. Kerry is the alternative to Bush and If one feels that Kerry is the lesser of two evils...that seems the most damning of Bush.

Bush is running against his record.

Oh, and I dont think this will be decided by Nov 3. I think it will take a while.

Nov. 3?


What if the hammers of Hell come down on the insurgents in Iraq and we have a Kerry win? I'm not emotionally equipped to deal with all this.

I'm crawling into a hole with as much beer as I can get no matter how it goes.

Another update on the Florida felon list.

From the article

I think he really means "After the media sued to look at the list, and after we failed to stop them, and after examination driven by the media it was found to be less than %90 accurate, and after members of a large Republican voting block were shown to have been 'accidentally excluded' I met with my Secretary of State, who is also a Republican, and told her 'If I try keep this up, we're all going to jail.'"

I think she really means "After the media sued to look at the list, and after we failed to stop them, and after an examination driven by the media it was found to be less than %90 accurate, and after members of a large Republican voting block were shown to have been 'accidentally excluded', the governor met with my Secretary of State, who is also a Republican, and told her 'If I try keep this up, we're all going to jail.'"

Simple solution - make it a state law to pay any eligible voter turned away $10,000, the money to be paid by the county, state, and company who placed them on the list. That should make the list more honest.

Mmmm! I could listen to Kind of Blue forever and ever and ever.

and ever.