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Did the theater managament overreact in calling the police? From the story as presented, I'd say Yes. But it sounds an awful lot like she was resistant when initially asked to leave the lobby ("For them to have stopped me from doing it seemed improper and that’s why I didn’t leave"), and then it sounds like she continued handing out flyers in the parking lot, which is NOT public property, after being asked to stop. And she continued long enough for the theater management to phone police, and for the police to arrive.
If that's true, she was violating the rights of the theater owners by continuing the unwanted action on their property despite their having asked her to leave. She probably should have been charged with tresspassing. This story is very one-sided, and I'd wager the theater management's version is decidedly different, and the truth somewhere in between. |
She was originally standing outside the actual theater as people were exiting the movie. As people were leaving the theater she was giving them voter registration forms. The theater manager asked her to stop and while she was handing out the forms she tried to argue her case and explain that she wasn't handing out campaign literature, or endorsing any political party or candidate, and she wasn't causing a disturbance.
I don't know about you, but I attend a lot of movies and it takes about 5 minutes to clear a theater out completely. She most likely finished handing out the voter registration forms while they were still debating the issue and then she left without even being asked to leave by the manager. The manager had not asked her to leave, but had asked her to stop handing out voter registration forms. She then left the theater and was in the parking lot on her way to her car. Some time after she left the theater but before she reached her car the cops arrived and motioned her to come over. Then she was arrested. She hadn't violated anyone's rights, created a disturbance, or violated any laws but she was arrested. |
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It really sounds, not unlike the film itself, that a lot of information is being withheld.
If it only takes 5 minutes to clear out a theatre then it only takes 30 seconds to walk to one's car yet the police were called and responded between the time she was asked to leave and when she actually left. No way that whole exchange was inside of a minute or two. But, all that aside, no one has the right to a captive audience on private property without the permission of the owner. Heck, I bet you'd be pretty hacked if that same person showed up on your front porch after all your friends were leaving from a party and handed a flyers of one sort or another. Imagine how you would feel if she didn't leave until long after you called the police and gave you lip the whole time. The article portrays the woman as the victim. Maybe its the other way around. The police sure thought so and while some police are jackboots, others just want to keep the peace. |
She didn't refuse to leave, she just didn't leave as fast as someone thought she should have. I would love to know how long all of this took.
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She DID leave the property owners premises and wasn't even forced to do so. Nobody escorted her out.
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It's the one at the Wegman's strip mall in Downingtown right?
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I don't know the area, so I couldn't answer. I was trying to figure that out from the story. I've found 8 Regal theaters in the Philly area, and I'm only assuming it's the Philly area since it's a Philly newspaper. Where is Easttown?
I've never been to Philadelphia. |
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What if she had been handing out something else,....like Watchtowers? Does it make a difference that she was doing a "public service"?
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jinx, as far as I can tell from the article, it's the one on West Chester Pike (Rt. 3) about halfway or so between Newtown Square and West Chester. It's a relatively large strip mall with the theater, a Genuardi's, Al E. Gator's, and a number of other smaller stores & restaurants. And the shopping center is off by itself--there are no residential or commercial buildings immediately bordering it. |
Steve, I don't think so, here's a good link. It's the one in Downingtown. And there's a link to a picture if you scroll down.
As an aside... It's weird how much this area has been in the news lately isn't it? Smarty, Nick Berg... other stuff I can't think of now... |
Nice Legal Summary from Slate
Why Can Shopping Malls Limit Free Speech
In summary, sometimes they can and sometimes they can't. The Supreme Court deferred to state law on the issue. Quote:
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"I was handing out the forms IN the theater, but I was not making any mention of party affiliation or candidates," she said. "I never said anything negative to anyone."
She said that on her way INTO the theater, she saw another woman who was handing out the forms but had run out. "Everybody’s been doing it all over the place," Frank said. "For them to have stopped me from doing it seemed improper and that’s why I didn’t leave." The woman was on private property, pure and simple. A property owner has every right to decide what takes place on his/her own property. I'm having a garden party. A man shows up with Micky Mouse fliers, possibly with/without my permission. The first man runs out of fliers and a second man arrives. I tell the second man that he does not have my permission to distribute Micky Mouse fliers on my property and ask him to leave. Instead, this man enters my garden, distributes fliers against my permission, and then walks back to his car. The police arrive and the man plays innocent: "Well, here I am at my car, ossifer. And besides, everyone else was doing it!" Is the man innocent? NO! Have my rights as an owner of private property been disregarded? YES! I am highly surprised that a Libertarian such as Radar would suddenly welcome government intervention over the rights of a property owner in this instance. The woman must have been handing out Libertarian party propaganda along with her voter registration forms. :headshake |
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