Mate of higher quality:

It is the job of all living things to reproduce their DNA.

Male sexual response is wired to look for appropriate procreators: young, healthy, receptive, feminine, with wide hips capable of surviving childbirth and healthy breasts to produce milk so that the young that will survive.

Female response is probably similar, looking for appropriate alpha males that can produce quality offspring, protect the cave, successfully hunt and/or gather and maybe even raise their place in society. (Not being a woman, I find it hard to understand how the response differs...)

That's "higher quality". And once it no longer applies, as it inevitably will; once the woman has mothered and produced those offspring, once the man has spent years hunting and gathering both their bodies will make new signals to the world and present them as, strangely, inappropriate mates; then comes the "second wives syndrome" for couples including men too shallow to recognize and overcome their base instinct.

I would expect that while young,(most) females are more attracted to bigger, stronger, handsome, etc. maybe not. maybe they like cerebral, whitty, wise. it matters not. the point is that, being more physicaly attractive herself, as men are all pigs and usually can't see past their hard wiring that UT described, she will have more choices available to her. therefore, if the relationship holds up, she will reproduce with (her idea of) a superior mate as compared to her more limited "best of the available" men, had she not fooled them with her boobs.

Tit implants make it easier for a near-sighted man to notice a gal's charms. ;) As far as them having an impact on natural selection, I always knew you men were pretty shallow, but Jeez, do you need to be so obvious about it?:rolleyes:

I am getting ridiculed by the young guys I hang out with her in Oregon.Maybe I am getting old.But I honestly want to connect with someone I empathise with. And if she has no "male attracting boobage"-Hey thats cool.

Sigh.I'm doing it again.

I wore glasses for 25 fucking years, blind as a bat. Had lasik done 2 years ago for anything but vain reasons. Best money I ever spent, I CAN SEE!

I LOVE nice tits, the bigger the better of course but I said nice. Not a pre-requisite in my book, but it is icing on the cake.

That said I think anyone who spends the money and takes the risks of any kind of surgery purely for vain reasons should be taken out back and shot.

I started losing my hair when I was 17, now I keep it trimmed to about 1/16 inch. It was the hand I was dealt, it's no big deal, live with it in other words. Fake boobs look like crap anyway, nice boobs look nice.

not shallow. it's about that initial attraction. you can meet a girl with a great rack, but if she is a drama queen or something, the relationship won't happen, or last. tits got her foot in the door, but she has to pry the rest open with her other charms. some men are shallow enough to endure a bad personality for an excellent body, but that's not going to last very long, usually.

So, exactly how bad was your vision? And what is your new correction, and were there any side effects?

My vision is so bad (my glassses are -13 on the left and -25 on the right), and coupled w/ my history of retina issues, I'm afraid to touch lasik for fear of making things worse. (I probably wouldn't qualify anyway because of that history.)

Fuck me, I thought I was bad with -6/-6.

Yeah, in my fascinating quest to get glasses made to that prescription, I scared several opticians (most of the big chains seemed to get queasy about anything over -10 or -12 or so), and one even told me my dr. must have made a mistake! (Actually I did have to talk my dr. into doing the right lens. SOP for such a large disparity between the eyes is apparently to prescribe a "balance" lens on the other side. But I told him if he REALLY wanted me to cut back on my contact lens wearing hours, I needed an acceptable correction in both eyes. So he did it.. it was impressive, he had to double up on the testing lenses because it was past the limit of the strongest lens he had.) But I quickly learned from some of the local privately-owned shops that the only way to handle it without ridiculous weight was a material called myodisc, so I just opened up with, "Have you ever filled a prescription using myodisc lenses?" If they said, "huh," I knew not to bother. If they said yes, it was worth talking. I eventually found a shop that was more interested in talking to me about my lens requirements than in showing me their extensive selection of designer frames, and that's who I went with.

[edited to correct SEVERAL dumb typos]

How about giving them a plug, Steve.:confused:

Holy shit. And they let you drive??

Seems as I recall that numbers beyond like -10 meant that one was "legally blind." I just checked several web pages that claim to provide authoratative information, and they say that if one's corrected vision is no better than 20/200 then one is legally blind.

I'm at -6.50 in both eyes ... which is a lot, but convenient because I don't have to remember which is the left contact and which is the right contact.

The question, however, remains ... what does one's eyeglass prescription mean expressed in terms of the Snellen Fraction? (that's the name of the 20/x number used to report visual acuity).

How thick are your lenses? Last time I changed my glasses (barely ever wear them now) they're around 3-4mm at the outer edge and that was the thinnest, most expensive I could get, if I could get some nice thin ones, not really worried about the cost, I'd jump at it. Contacts suck for long hours of comptuer use.

The "Day and Night" 30 day extended wear contacts are great, and don't give me problems when on the computer, and as you know, I'm on the computer [b]a lot[/n].

I only keep them in for two weeks, take a couple days off, put 'em back in for another two weeks and then discard.

I originally got them because I was tired of having patients bend or break my glasses.

oh boy.

when i started this thread, i thought, maybe we'll get some philosophical debate, or some arguments about natural selection, and if i'm lucky, someone will admit to having implants, and maybe we can get a picture. or maybe just a lot of talk a bout boobs.

sigh