The Cellar - 6/8/2004: 209-year-old royal heart

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poohbearbeth

06-08-2004 08:26 PM

I've had a broken heart

Once more you opened the door, my heart will go on...........

ckigar

06-08-2004 09:40 PM

Telltale Heart Deals Blow to Pretender to a Throne

This article from the NY Times (registration req'd) profiles "Prince Charles Louis Edmond de Bourbon, count of Poitiers - or, for short, King Charles XII by Right, the legitimate heir to the French throne..." but.. since the DNA from this heart doesn't line up with his... it mustn't be the real thing...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/08/in...pe/08pret.html

bluesdave

06-08-2004 11:10 PM

Re: Telltale Heart Deals Blow to Pretender to a Throne

Quote:

Originally posted by ckigar
but.. since the DNA from this heart doesn't line up with his... it mustn't be the real thing...

You didn't read the article very carefully, did you? It says that Mr. de Bourbon's lineage is in dispute, not the heart. The last paragraph says that a DNA comparison of a strand of Marie Antoinette's hair matched the heart:

Quote:

Four years ago, DNA from a sliver of the withered heart, now gnarled and dry as a piece of wood, was found to match that from a locket of Marie Antoinette's hair, satisfying many scholars that it belonged to Louis XVII.

:rolleyes:

lookout123

06-08-2004 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, but I read "The Telltale Heart". :)

is that like "braveheart"?

lumberjim

06-08-2004 11:47 PM

i've been stuck inside your heart shaped box_ for_weeks
neer neer neer ne ne neeer

xoxoxoBruce

06-09-2004 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lookout123

is that like "braveheart"?

No, your thinking of Captain Beefheart.:)

wolf	06-09-2004 09:35 AM

Is that a Faberge` heart container, or a cheap knockoff?

dar512

06-09-2004 10:15 AM

Reminds me of a Robert Bloch quote:

"I have the heart of a little boy -- pickled in a jar on my desk."

Slothboy

06-09-2004 10:38 AM

*raises glass*

To Louis XVII, we heartly knew you.

melidasaur

06-09-2004 11:41 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science....ap/index.html

Pi	06-09-2004 11:51 AM

From CNN-article :
"There, it was placed in a royal crypt containing the remains of Louis XVII's parents, Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI."

Maybe I'm wrong but Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI were not burried in a crypt but thrown in mass-graves.

melidasaur

06-09-2004 12:26 PM

From www.wikipedia.com:

On the 16th of October 1793 Marie Antoinette was led to the guillotine, leaving behind her a touching letter to Madame Elizabeth, known as her "Testament."

She is buried in Saint Denis Basilica, Paris, France next to her husband, King Louis XVI of France.

Pi	06-09-2004 01:24 PM

Ok, checked it out. They were actually thrown into mass-graves, but in 1815 they were exhumed an burried in Saint-Denis...
My fault.
But actually Louis XVI should be named Roi des Français (king of frenchmen). That was his last title.

melidasaur

06-09-2004 01:30 PM

a mass grave makes much more sense - the French hated those people!

Pi	06-09-2004 01:43 PM

Yes, until 1815, when the reign of Bonaparte was over and France became a monarchy again...

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