Radar

Not at all, which is why I'd give them a choice to stop attacking so they could live in peace and why I'd allow them a week to evacuate before launching the attack. Anyone who stayed would be there because they wanted to fight. If I advocated a final solution I'd suggest killing them all right now.

I do advocate the use of deadly force against aggressors like the Palestinians who use force against me, my loved ones or my country.

Wrong. It is in the hands of the aggressors (The Palestinians) to stop their aggression and unreasonable demands. All they have to do is stop killing Israeli people and they can live in peace on what land they currently have. If they choose to attack, they are choosing to die.

Radar I've seen you have this argument with many before and I know that this thread will not progress until you bugger off, which you will not do, so I'm going to bugger off myself.

I just notice that you use Ireland in your IM profile names, which part or Ireland did your ancestors come from? so next time I am back home I can poke fun at them over what an idiot son they have spawned. I can tell you straight away that your views are not ones that anyone in Ireland would advocate.

The difference between Ireland and the Palestinians is Ireland actually owned the land and the Palestinians didn't. The Palestinians never owned that land in the history of the planet Earth.

And half of my family is from Cork, and the other is from Kilkenny.

Goddamn Palestinians and their unreasonable demands for self determination and basic human rights *shakes fist at gaza* hiding out amongst those stupid palestinian civilian sympathisers! *fires missile into a small block of apartments * Har! Gotcha ya dirty raghead! *spits on ground* Theyre dogs. No really, the only language they understand is extreme violence I mean My God have you seen the way they live? Theyre animals, they dont even value their own lives, look at the way they send their people to die in suicide attacks....bastards! knock down their famies' houses.....in fact, knock down the whole street maybe that'll stay in their minds as a lesson. *shouts through loudspeaker* "We demand the surrender of all males betwen the ages of 16 and 65" they coming out? Good start shooting har! ok...who is left? Right, gather em up......theres a lot of em....thousands....Well we have to keep tabs on them we better give them a mark. A number. Lets write it on their forearms. there ...looks almost like a tattoo that'll do. Alright......lets get these men to somewhere secure so we can ...interrogate them.

Damn this war.....so hard. They could be hiding anywhere! They could be anyone. The only way to know we've killed all the militants would be to kill all the palestinians.

Way off as usual. It's more like...

Kill the Jews, and everyone who supports Israel. Those people have no right to exist. They took our land....well we didn't actually own it, but we were there for a long time so we should kill people...but they seem tough so let's only kill thier women and children and then run back to our land and hide ourselves in the middle of a bunch of our own women and children. That way if they attack us we can point to the bodies of the people that WE endangered and call them monsters....yes, and let's brainwash children and strap bombs to them so they can kill jews too. Nevermind the fact that they are only defending themselves. They are Jews! They have no right to defend the land they rightfully own! Let's blame Israel for all of our problems. Let's blame them for our own actions. Let's blame them for our poverty and dispair even though none of them is actually stoping us from creating and living in our own businesses and building up our economy.

Let's murder all of them and them act like we're victims. Then all of the idiots in the world will feel sorry for us and call the Israel the monsters. It's so crazy it just might work!

By Jove RADAR you might just have something there.....oh wait no, sorry my mistake you were talking out of your rectum again.

Dana...Pot...Kettle...Black. Yep.

ooooh. Yes. i think I'll go make a cup of tea what a brilliant idea!

Actually, both are pretty much true, for subsets of each population.

Posted by Radar

how did we *shudder* Irish own our land and the Palestinians didn't?? was it thru force of arms in the war of Independence, if so surely that would justify the Palestinian terrorist cause? or was it through ancient claim to celtic Ireland snuffed out by the Normans and the English? but just as is often claimed by zionist apologists that there never was a Palestinian state before the British Mandate, there never was an Irish nation before the British conquered us and united us in opisition to them. There was 4 main kingdoms (Ulster, Leinster, Connaught and Munster) and many many small kingdoms. Why are us Irish right and the Palestinians wrong?

BTW I was born in Dublin, but my family traces it's roots to West Cork, to Schull and Ballydehob

Now see Yelof you are falling into that classic mistake of attempting to use logic to get past RADAR's bullshit perimeter. It wont work you surely know that?

You seem to be a master of situational ethics, Radar. On the one hand you advocate killing the people who force you to pay income tax, on the other hand you think people in a foreign country (the Palestinians in Israel) should just lay down and play dead while their homes are taken away from them. This whole mess in the Middle East of Jew against Arab was made incenduary thanks to government meddling. Worst of all it was a foreign imperialist government out for its own ends - defeat of the Turkish empire, followed by concern for control of the Suez canal, followed by today's concern over having a strong hold close to oil producing regions. The people who actually lived in the region were completely disregarded except as pawns used to further Great Britain's, France's, and now the US's own ends.

You're mad about a lousey little thing like income tax, yet you think people should not utter a word of protest when their country is being taken away from them. The lack of logic in your outlook is truely incredible.

You consider a man whose policy results in the deaths of innocent children - Sharon - a hero; you say your glad to see Israel sticking up for itself for A CHANGE - what? Have you been asleep for the past 50 years? Are you THAT ignorant of history? As always, when I respond to one of your posts, I wonder why I'm even bothering with someone who is so lacking in the basic fundamentals of logic and the ability to conduct a coherent discussion of the issues.

I think the difference is that when RADAR is talking about income tax he is talking with his own kind in mind ( ie Americans) when he is talking about the Palestinians he is talking about Arabs and in RADAR's world view arab lives dont weigh as heavily as Americans or Israelis.