The Cellar

The Cellar (http://cellar.org/index.php)
-   Politics (http://cellar.org/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   China politics (http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=3310)

xoxoxoBruce 05-07-2003 04:50 PM

Billy, it appears from what you've said and what I've read in other places, that the living conditions in China have improved. It seems that much of that improvement comes from Chinas move away from Lenin/Marx/Mao communism toward western style capitalism. It would be good if China can strike a balance that will give a strong economy for everyone instead of some rich at the expense of others being poor. That would be unique in the world today.
I see foshan has seperate lanes for human powered vehicles and engine powered vehicles. How do bicycles make a left turn?:confused:

Billy 05-07-2003 07:35 PM

Taiwan is one part of China
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Billy, what is your point of view on Taiwan?
It is a senstiive topic international cosiety. It is a good for you to ask me for it. All the Chinese believe that Taiwan is one part of China. We have corroborant proofs in the old China history. Chinese hope that Taiwan come back P.R. China as HongKong and Macao went home. The Taiwan economy become worse now. So lots of Taiwanese come back Mianland to break a new path. They have a successful business here. I meet some Taiwanese. They hope Taiwan have a good relation with mainland and come back China. Yhe Chinese should hold together to develop economy and culture, not have a fight relation. Taiwan would come back China. It is just a time problem. I wait for the day.

Billy 05-07-2003 07:42 PM

Left turn
 
Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
I see foshan has seperate lanes for human powered vehicles and engine powered vehicles. How do bicycles make a left turn?
In China the powered vehicles drivers all sit at left of cars. We run on the right side of road. The bicycles easily to trun any direction. The bicycle and walker have a single road. That reduce the danger from cars.

elSicomoro 05-07-2003 11:13 PM

Billy, let me ask you this: Are there any governmental policies with which you disagree? It could be anything, including things with which Americans or non-Chinese are unfamiliar. For example, I did not agree with our government's decision to send armed troops to Iraq.

Billy 05-08-2003 12:12 AM

Complaints to my government
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sycamore
Are there any governmental policies with which you disagree?
Of courese, I have many complaint for my government.

1. There is no a good government supervising policy. Corruption would occur without supervising. They can snatch money from our tax.

2. The bad government work efficiency. We need go to many departments to sign if we apply one certificate.

3. Envionment protecting policy. The envionment is a vast problem to China now. Some places have no pure water to drink.

And more, I can not spell them one time.

xoxoxoBruce 05-08-2003 10:43 PM

A great many people in this country feel China can make products cheaper because there are no laws to keep companies from cutting their costs by polluting. You seem to confirm that pollution is one of your greatest problems.
Do you think the government will realize they must force companies to stop, polluting to increase profits, before the country is poisoned?

Billy 05-09-2003 08:18 PM

Cheap manpower
 
Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Do you think the government will realize they must force companies to stop, polluting to increase profits, before the country is poisoned?
Of course, some companies really product the pollution. Ago we hoped that company invested to improve indsutry progress. We ignored the pollution. There are no pure water to drink in some palces so that they go to other places to live. The expense is so vast.

Many companies invest in China because the manpower is cheaper. Lots of people have no work to do in China, we say it layoff. So the physical work is cheap.

Now the China strictly require companies and people to protect environment. We have inveted a lot of money to protect. Many enterprises apply the ISO14000 environment system to protect our country. More and more people regard the environment as important as money. We should have a btter a environment if we all take actions.

Billy 05-09-2003 09:24 PM

What do you think China government?
 
Maybe you think that Red China is very different from the US. in fact we have many same aspects in daily life. The government hope to people rich and have a good life. We are use the different way to govern contry. I think you can give me some different ideas. Wait you!

elSicomoro 05-09-2003 10:24 PM

Billy, are you asking what the main differences are between China and the US?

Billy 05-09-2003 10:35 PM

Difference is ok
 
I want to know the differences.

Why do you like add ice into beer, cola, water?

elSicomoro 05-09-2003 11:11 PM

I don't know of many people that actually put ice in their beer. However, we prefer many of our beers cold--they taste best that way. As far as the other items, we like them to be colder than a refrigerator will make them. Plus, it keeps the beverage colder for a longer amount of time. If an item has been in the refrigerator, I generally don't put ice in it.

juju 05-10-2003 01:49 AM

Re: Cheap manpower
 
I think your English has gotten much better since you've been here. I thought I'd try to help you out on a few things. I hope you don't take offense. I'm not that good at grammar myself, but I do know a little. I'm not going to cover everything, because for the most part we understand you just fine. But perhaps a few corrections might help you improve.

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy
Of course, some companies really product the pollution.
'Product' is a noun. But here, you're using it as a verb. The word you're looking for is 'produce'.

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy
Ago we hoped that company invested to improve indsutry progress.
'Ago' is not commonly used in this fashion. I don't know if it's grammatically correct or not, but it sounds wrong. Something like "Many years ago," or "long ago," would probably be better. Also, I think that you're talking about multiple companies in this sentence. If that's true, then the word 'company' should be plural. And instead of 'invested', it should be 'would invest'. So, an alternate sentence might read:
Quote:

<b>"Long ago, we hoped that companies would invest to improve industry progress".</b>
Quote:

Originally posted by Billy
We ignored the pollution. There are no pure water to drink in some palces so that they go to other places to live.
'Water' in this sentence is singular. So, instead of saying 'are', you should say 'is'. There should be a comma after 'places'. And also, you don't specify who 'they' is . Who is 'they'? Pronouns have to refer to something. In this case, you could use a noun instead, like 'people'. Also, I think the word 'that' is unneccesary. So, you could instead say:
Quote:

<b>Now, there is no pure water to drink in some places, so people go to other places to live. </b>

I think the rest of your message is perfectly understandable. Hope this helps. :)

Billy 05-10-2003 07:29 AM

Thank you very much, JUJU!
 
I was busy on work when I posted the message. So I have little time to check the sentences for post it ASAP. Sometimes I could not find the errors as you pointed them to me. Sometimes I typed them wrong. Hope you to help me as you did.

Thank you from my heart bottom.

Billy 05-10-2003 07:39 AM

Do you hope that China has freedom as you do?
 
In 1989 the national students had the "movement". Now we still fear that the students do like that. I heard the students strived to get the west style freedom. In that "movement" some students did not know why they did that. They just struggled as other did. The movement greatly affected national economy, life and other things so the government took army action.

The government still seal the realities. I don't know what it is and think to know it.

From what you see you still think that China have no freedom. Do you think how much freedom we should gain and how we strive to get.

Undertoad 05-10-2003 09:04 AM

There are many of us who feel that America itself does not have enough freedom.

History shows that the countries that have the most central control are the ones that lag behind. When people can make their own choices, sometimes they choose poorly, but they are better at making these choices than the government.

I have studied economics for a long time, Billy, and I can assure you that the 1989 protests can not affect an economy. It is impossible.

Individual rights make countries rich. When people are free to do what they wish, they are more productive. They find ways to do more in less time. They use machines to automate their work. They invent new ways to work.

The Chinese culture itself is not the reason for the lag. The Chinese people are a good people. China will succeed if it has enough freedom to succeed.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:11 PM.

Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.