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Happy Monkey 02-28-2020 03:27 PM

It's nice that many people have moved on to the next excuse not to do anything, but plenty of people still think (or at least claim) we aren't warming, and plenty more think or claim that it's a natural solar cycle. Trump himself said it's a Chinese hoax, and then said it wasn't a hoax, but it wasn't manmade and would change back again. And then said that he just didn't want to spend money on it. Senator Inhofe brought a snowball into the Senate in February of 2015, as evidence that it was unseasonably cold.

At least "the free market will fix it" isn't technically science denial.

Though I'm not sure how a person can "go nuclear unreservedly"; it seems like that would be just as much a government action as any other.

glatt 02-28-2020 03:48 PM

I think he was hoping to make a snowflake cry with that statement about nukes.

Luce 02-28-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 1047533)
I think he was hoping to make a snowflake cry with that statement about nukes.

Not sure how that would follow. Nuclear power is the best option in many places.

But I suspect that he has an image of "liberals" that would be very bizarre to an outside observer.

tw 02-28-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 1047496)
Free market, all unsung, has been quietly at work on it for ten years...

So why are GM cars only getting bigger - consuming more fuel - not doing anything to address the problem? Clinton even gave them a boatload of money in the mid 1990s to develop solutions. Instead, patriotic American companies (companies that innovate) now dominate such markets.

Put $35 of gas in a tank. How many actually move the car? $4. What do the other $31 do? Contribute to global warming. Somehow that company, when not required by regulations, simply stops addressing the problem - stops innovating. (As a result it constantly looses market share to other innovative - patriotic American - companies.)

So where is this free market that is innovating? Ironically only where government regulations are encouraged and implemented in venues where honesty exists and global warming really is a man made problem. Where people believe in facts. And ignore preaching by religious extremists and communist - ie Senator Inhofe.

tw 02-28-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 1047533)
I think he was hoping to make a snowflake cry with that statement about nukes.

As if global warming, nukes, and a Miami Dolphin mascot have something in common. Yes, he is preaching to people who will automatically believe even a mascot is relevant - because the Central Committee orders them to believe.

And also believe Snowflake has tears. After all, Inhofe saw those tears. Again, we must believe him. He is an expert - and also smarter than the Generals.

fargon 02-28-2020 11:06 PM

"So why are GM cars only getting bigger - consuming more fuel - not doing anything to address the problem? "

Tw, do you own stock in ford or something?

Urbane Guerrilla 02-29-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Luce (Post 1047539)
But I suspect that he has an image of "liberals" that would be very bizarre to an outside observer.

I have a vision of the senseless, the immature, and the illiberal who believe themselves virtuously liberal -- and it would terrify you.

I dislike selfrighteous fascists, old or new; they are still fascists regardless of intentions. While I'm not, being of the people of freedom.

Urbane Guerrilla 02-29-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1047553)
So why are GM cars only getting bigger - consuming more fuel . . .

What is this?

At a supposition, it's a statement that history ended in 1972. A moment before the gas crisis.

The remainder of the post, while very backward-looking, is not as objectionable.

Luce 03-02-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 1047627)
I have a vision of the senseless, the immature, and the illiberal who believe themselves virtuously liberal -- and it would terrify you.

They make pills for that.

Happy Monkey 03-02-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 1047582)
"So why are GM cars only getting bigger - consuming more fuel - not doing anything to address the problem? "

Tw, do you own stock in ford or something?

Yeah, Ford's the one that actually stopped making cars.

xoxoxoBruce 03-04-2020 02:01 AM

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The Kung Flu has helped the air quality, also it might stay a little better since 25% of the small business won't reopen, They ran out of money, lost lease, can't afford stock, etc.

Griff 03-04-2020 07:30 AM

I was going to go looking for that, nice work B.

tw 03-04-2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 1047582)
Tw, do you own stock in ford or something?

I did when that stock was providing a 250% ROI. Review old posts where those reason for profits (and how anyone else could have also profited) were defined - before they happened.

I would not buy a Ford. It has made major improvements since 2000 - when all Ford products were crap. But it still is not good enough.

Meanwhile, back then I could not collect enough money to buy enough Ford stock. Facts and numbers made obvious the future ROI. Profits were significantly higher than I expected.


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