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Happy Monkey 01-21-2015 08:42 PM

You can if you refuse to eat food containing DNA.

orthodoc 01-21-2015 08:43 PM

??? You can what? No one said anything about refusing to eat food containing DNA.

Happy Monkey 01-21-2015 08:45 PM

Be protein deficient.

I was referencing a recent study where people when polled wanted food containing DNA to be labeled.

My link is to an article about how that poll was silly.

orthodoc 01-21-2015 08:58 PM

Thanks for that. The conclusion was reasonable: that people, when confronted with a question formulated so as to be ridiculous, answer the more reasonable question they assume you meant to ask.

All of which is still to say that North Americans are in no danger of being protein deficient, vegan or non-vegan.

sexobon 01-21-2015 09:20 PM

The topic of insects wasn't really brought up as a supplement for protein deficiency; rather, as a protein substitute for plants to reduce the collateral damage to other animals that occurs when raising and harvesting crops.

orthodoc 01-21-2015 09:34 PM

Agreed, that current farming methods are harmful ... both the despicable treatment of most animals destined for grocery stores, and the cultivation of feed crops for factory-farmed animals. There's a better solution than farming black soldier fly larvae (or any other insects) for human consumption, though.

sexobon 01-21-2015 09:45 PM

Of course, everyone knows that we should be eating our dead.

:bolt:

BigV 01-22-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 919934)
You can if you refuse to eat food containing DNA.

my favorite part of that article:
Quote:

If you ask a question that is nuts when interpreted precisely, but is basically similar to a sensible question, people are going to answer the question they think you meant to ask. People are helpful that way, even when it isn’t helpful.

BigV 01-22-2015 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 919942)
Of course, everyone knows that we should be eating our dead.

:bolt:

of course it's dead.


as opposed to eating.. .. the ... living????!!!!

xoxoxoBruce 01-22-2015 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc (Post 919929)
Horses, cattle, sheep, all have incisors, canines, and premolars. Their teeth are remarkably, astonishingly like ours. Incisors, canines, and premolars are used for cutting, tearing, and mashing (prior to grinding) ... of virtually any foodstuff, plants included.

No. http://cellar.org/2012/nono.gif
Cattle and sheep have no upper incisors which is why they can't bite off anything. They use the lower incisors to rip vegetation like you'd tear off a piece of waxed paper. Cattle have no canine teeth, and while the sheep's outside set of incisors are called canines they are hardly capable of ripping anything tougher than grass. Both cattle and sheep have premolars and molars which are strictly for chewing and grinding, because they are too far back in their mouth to bite anything.

Oh, and weresheep? Only Gromit can see them, so no worry there.

Clodfobble 01-22-2015 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by blueboy56
If we aren't to eat meat, why then do we have incisors, canines (teeth) and premolars.

Eventually, we would only have molars and no front jaws.

Pardon me, we are omnivores, we have always been omnivores and I intend to stay that way.

I find a very weird dissonance in people who talk about what we (as a whole) are "meant" to eat due to evolution, as if evolution is akin to predestiny. The whole point of evolution is that if we have to change due to our environment, then we (as a whole) can do that. By definition we (as a whole) don't have to do what our ancestors did--if our environment suddenly makes it so that nothing but meat is available to eat, then we'll eat that, a bunch of us will die, but the ones whose metabolisms can manage it, if only barely, will have babies who are better at it, and in a few thousand years we'll be like lions scoffing at how we were never "meant" to eat produce.

On an individual level, it's an entirely different story. I know what works best for my one body, personally, and I don't give a shit what vegans or bacon-lovers or anyone else thinks I "should" be eating.

xoxoxoBruce 01-22-2015 12:27 PM

I think I'd like to study your body more closely... Uh, for scientificical like stuff... yeah, that's it, for the good of the species. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :blush:

Clodfobble 01-22-2015 05:05 PM

Good for species morale, no doubt, but I think it's safe to day that my genetic contribution to the species is iffy at best. But I'm all for raising, ah, morale. :)

sexobon 01-23-2015 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 919958)
I find a very weird dissonance in people who talk about what we (as a whole) are "meant" to eat due to evolution, as if evolution is akin to predestiny. ...

Some things are better attributed to creationism like if God didn't intend for man to eat pussy, he wouldn't have made it look like a taco.

Sundae 01-23-2015 04:32 AM

I would not eat a taco that came with hairs attached.


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