We'll see if that nation building happens, by the sound of there's lots of Taliban-remnents bombing going on but not much nation building, Karzai seems to be getting quite worried the US is oging to do the same trick it did last time.

Client state is more questionable, it's a nice sounding title but it can encompass many things.

Both are still imperialist.

So what you're saying UT is that you condone the use of violence, torture and inhumane conditions on people, without the right to a trial or legal representation based purely on whether your governments deems them terrorists?

i mean you were decrying me for not attacking China, who would no doubt ue similar methods a few posts ago, now you appear to be advocating KGB antiterrorist stratergies, you know, those EVIL commies?

I assume everyone else takes my point, so I won't clarify.