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toranokaze 01-26-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 850147)
Hang on ... some water is celery, isn't it? Celery is (I dunno, say...) 80% water. That water, the stuff that makes up the celery, kind of "is" celery.

The way water is in celery is not the way water is in a bottle - not topologically inside it, but metaphysically as one of its constituents.

Some water is celery, but not much. Thankfully.

In the same way cars have doors, but a car isn't a door or house is made of wood, wood are made from trees but trees are not houses.

Crimson Ghost 01-26-2013 09:41 PM

And houses are just places for our stuff.

BTW, I got shoes on, but I ain't walking.

ZenGum 01-27-2013 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 850195)
Water takes the SHAPE of the given container, not water BECOMES part of the given container.

http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php...%25#post203110

That's the in-a-bottle relationship. The metaphysical constituent relationship is different. The water does become part of the celery.


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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 850281)
In the same way cars have doors, but a car isn't a door or house is made of wood, wood are made from trees but trees are not houses.

Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.

DanaC 01-27-2013 05:55 AM

Celery is partly made of water. As are humans. A percentage of the world's water is in celery. A percentage in humans.

Trilby 01-27-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 850309)
Celery is partly made of water. As are humans. A percentage of the world's water is in celery. A percentage in humans.

and pretty soon we'll be fighting over it. (water)

Sundae 01-27-2013 08:23 AM

I love the Cellar.

Clodfobble 01-27-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum
Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.

Similarly, you could ask, what percentage of the world's oxygen is water?

ZenGum 01-27-2013 05:08 PM

So, what percentage of the world's oxygen is celery?

footfootfoot 01-27-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 850308)
That's the in-a-bottle relationship. The metaphysical constituent relationship is different. The water does become part of the celery.




Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.

The water resides within the celery's cell walls, it is not in solution and can be removed, for example:

If a grocer had a box with 100 pounds of celery that was 99% water and the next day the celery had lost so much water it was only 98% water how many blowjobs would the former Brianna have given for the correct answer.

IOW I reject your celery water conflation.

footfootfoot 01-27-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 850377)
So, what percentage of the world's oxygen is celery?

42

toranokaze 01-30-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 850308)
That's the in-a-bottle relationship. The metaphysical constituent relationship is different. The water does become part of the celery.




Cars "have" doors. Celery "partly is" water. These relations are different.

You can have a bottle without water, a car without doors, a house without wood, but you cannot have celery completely without water.

There exits desiccated powered celery.
Powered celery is celery
There is no water in powered celery.
Therefore celery can exists without water.

ZenGum 01-30-2013 09:17 PM

Would you say that mummified people are still people?

Powdered celery is a product derived from dead celery, but it is not in esse celery. Celery is a living thing, for starters.

BigV 01-30-2013 09:39 PM

is it still living when I'm eating it?

if it's not, is it no longer celery?

footfootfoot 01-31-2013 11:07 AM

A maple tree is a tree, sawn into boards it is no longer a tree but it is now maple boards. Still maple, just not a tree.

glatt 01-31-2013 11:12 AM

When I eat bacon, I digest it, and it becomes one with my body. Am I bacon?


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