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sexobon 12-29-2012 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 845583)
... My mother-in-law sets up her nativity each year with the wise men figurines set up way off to the side, to indicate that they were traveling, not there yet. Gotta settle that cognitive dissonance somehow...

Celebrate Three Kings Day on Epiphany, January 6th. There are plenty of traditions to choose from. You can borrow one from southeast Texas and give your MIL a king cake!

DanaC 12-29-2012 05:01 AM

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In Catalonia, as well as in the rest of Spain and in most of Italy and Southern France, traditional Christmas decorations sometimes consist of a large model of the city of Bethlehem, similar to the Nativity scenes of the English-speaking world but encompassing the entire city rather than just the typical manger scene. In Catalonia, the pessebre or nativity scene is often a reproduction of a pastoral scene with a traditional Catalan masia (farmhouse) as a central setting with the child in a manger, with outlying scenes of a washerwoman by a river, a woman spinning, shepherds walking towards the manger area laden with gifts and herding their sheep, the three wise men approaching on horseback, an annunciation scene with the angel and shepherds, the star pointing the way, etc., all of this usually set on moss to represent grass, with cork used to represent mountains or cliffs. Another variant is to make the setting oriental, with the wise men arriving by camel and the figures dressed accordingly.
But the best bit of a Catalan nativity scene is the Caganer. We've mentione dit before in here somewhere, but here it is again:

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A Caganer (Catalan pronunciation: [kəɣəˈne], Western Catalan: [kaɣaˈne]) is a figurine depicted in the act of defecation appearing in nativity scenes in Catalonia and neighbouring areas with Catalan culture such as Andorra, Valencia, Northern Catalonia (in southern France) and the Balearic Islands. It is most popular and widespread in these areas, but can also be found in other areas of Spain (Murcia), Portugal and southern Italy (Naples).
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The caganer is a particular and highly popular feature of modern Catalan nativity scenes. It is believed to have entered the nativity scene by the late 17th-early 18th century, during the Baroque period.[4] Eminent folklorist Joan Amades called it an essential piece and the most popular figure of the nativity scene. It can also be found in other parts of southwestern Europe, including Murcia, the region just south of the Valencia in Spain (where they are called cagones), Naples (cacone or pastore che caca) and Portugal (cagões).[5] There is a sculpture of a person defecating hidden inside the cathedral of Ciudad Rodrigo, Province of Salamanca, though this is not part of a nativity scene.[6] Accompanying Mary, Joseph, Jesus, the shepherds and company, the caganer is often tucked away in a corner of the model, typically nowhere near the manger scene. A tradition in the Catalan Countries is to have children find the hidden figure.
So, not only do they hide a crouching, shitting figure in the scene, they get the kids to find him :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ganer_back.png

Clodfobble 12-29-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon
You can borrow one from southeast Texas and give your MIL a king cake!

Interesting... I've only ever heard of having King Cakes for Mardis Gras.

orthodoc 12-29-2012 07:41 AM

Interesting cultural information about Catalan nativity scenes. Definitely a recent and regional thing ... any information on what led to the inclusion of the Caganer figure?

Griff 12-29-2012 08:20 AM

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I like this one. A couple sites say its a fertility thing. I wonder if it isn't a little protest of some sort? If it is a recognizable figure...

Clodfobble 12-29-2012 09:55 AM

Fertilization of the fields for planting in the new year?

DanaC 12-29-2012 11:30 AM

Sorry I should have included a link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer

Trilby 12-30-2012 05:47 AM

Defecation is traditionally equated with bodily functions which means you have a body, it does nasty things and has nasty smells and you, too, one day will die and become rot (fertilizer; poop; decay, etc)

Deities typically don't defecate. They are spirit; not physical bodies. We are here in the material world and therefore must put up with nasty things. Poop=death.

that said, Obama's religion is irrelevant. I say screw the Presidency and let's have a High Priestess for a change!

regular.joe 12-31-2012 03:05 AM

Everyone poops. That is all.

Clodfobble 12-31-2012 03:12 PM

Though some require medical intervention to do so.

richlevy 01-01-2013 06:59 AM

Patrick Stewart, SNL, 'sexy cakes'.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdz...n#.UOLc2XfRWOI


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