I haven't been around and I dunno who or what is going on, but hang in there. There is LIFE on the other side. Many of us have been through it.
Hang tight, keep your head about you and THINK before acting.

Be well.

yeah, I;ve been thru it TWICE.

sucked both times but one time sucked harder than the other.

LOVE to you, anon.

Oh, this sucks.

But my sense of the matter is that you've been way too unhappy for way too long. I know there are two sides to every story but your situation seems a bit nightmarish and the end result is the same: you're unhappy as hell and that's no way to live.

Hang in there.

Good luck dude. Bruce is right, get your gear out and safely stowed.

Holy shit! I actually know who we're talking about. I think it's the first time.

I am Spartacus!

No, I am Spartacus!

You're both wrong. Jim is Spartacus!

I'm not Spartacus...am I?:confused:

No, I'm Spartacus. Equal opportunity, y'know.

Women can use you and toss you aside without ever looking back. It hurts. I still hurt deeply from my last crash & burn 5 years ago. But, things do get better and it really helps if you can move away so you don't run into her or even hear about her

Sorry to hear, Anon. Stay strong and good luck. :hug:

Men do the same thing, often much more efficiently than women manage to. But I'm biased, and this thread is anon's. Just sayin' - it cuts both ways.

And moving away is a good thing, I've found.

It certainly does cut both ways, there's nasty people in every camp.

So I went to see a counselor the other day to address some of the emotional issues. At one point he said, "It doesn't sound like you need marriage counseling, it sounds like you need divorce counseling."

I've not moved out yet, but I am in another bedroom and there's a lot of civility. which is good, One of the things I've realized just recently is that she doesn't really love me, although she says and thinks she does. It's more like she likes the idea of loving me but wouldn't really know what love was if it bit her on the ankle. I'm sure she loves the kids, but she's not married to them.

Anyway, I'm taking steps to keep things civil for the kids and paving the way for divorce counseling.

Kind of scary.