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Ibby 10-03-2012 09:43 PM

Oh, so they should just go on QI then.
Wait. what if the audience wins?

Juniper 10-03-2012 11:16 PM

How about we elect our next Prez American Idol style.

We get a dozen candidates, who have to perform somehow - debating, speechifying, doing something useful for a change. The judges make comments about how they did. Then we all vote by texting with our cell phones and they're eliminated one by one till we crown our next Presidential Idol.

Or Survivor style, where they are voted off the island and have to do challenges and make alliances with their tribes and whatnot (I never watched the show).

I think that would be a lot more fun, don't you?

ZenGum 10-04-2012 12:31 AM

How is that different from the current process? :right:

Juniper 10-04-2012 09:39 AM

Well, the votes by text message. :)

Which may or may not really count anyway, according to AI critics who say it's all staged anyway . . .

Damn, you're right.

But it would still be more fun that way.

Sundae 10-04-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibby (Post 832969)
Oh, so they should just go on QI then.
Wait. what if the audience wins?

What is Alan Davies does?
Ah well. Could be worse. At least he has lovely curly hair.

Ibby 10-04-2012 06:11 PM

I'd vote for president Davies because he'd have to make Fry VP.

Sundae 10-05-2012 02:01 AM

No, you can't have Fry.
He is one of the Stately Homos of England now.

ZenGum 10-05-2012 04:25 AM

He could be your next official Queen.

Griff 10-05-2012 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 832770)
If the moderates do not vote, the extremists are in control.

I try to keep this in mind, voting for the more gentle slope to hell at each opportunity, unfortunately the extremists are already in control of the primary elections, so when we get to the general election there is no-one worthy of a positive vote. Moderates get drummed out of both parties. My district lost a middle ground Democrat who failed to toe the line. The party wanted someone less representative of the spirit of the locals, so now we're a Republican district whose rep votes strictly by party.

As far as legitimacy goes you can see here that we barely have legitimate elections during Presidential election cycles and don't have them in off years. The partisans of each side are cartoonish in their beliefs because the moderates have better things to do with their lives than attempt to rule others.

JBKlyde 10-11-2012 09:44 PM

I dunno I WILL vote I am a registered republican. Mainly because I feel like the dems just aren't getting the job done, I'll vote republican.. so next year who ever gets elected I will have the right to complain.. I like republican because they are apparently going to return to the constitution and help restore our future..

tw 10-11-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 833896)
I like republican because they are apparently going to return to the constitution and help restore our future..

After the 2000 election, we discussed routine behavior of the stock market. It tends to drop with Republican presidents. Talk about an understated prediction.

The Economist of 6 Oct 2012 provides numbers:
Quote:

Since 1929 Republican presidents have had ten full terms in office. The average annual real price change in American equities over this period is slightly less than zero, according to Barclays Capital’s “Equity Gilt Study”. The average real price gain in years of Democratic presidencies has been 7%. In nominal terms, the Democrats have walloped the Republicans by 10.8% to 2.7%. ...

The average inflation rate under Democrats has indeed been a bit higher—3.5%, compared with 3% under Republicans.

... between 1952 and 2004 the average annual real post-tax income gain for the rich (defined as those in the 80th percentile of income) was 1.37% when Democrats were in the White House and just 0.92% when Republicans were.

Interestingly, when Mr Bartels looks at the real post-tax income growth of the poor (defined as those at the 20th percentile of earnings), the picture looks rather different. Their income increased by 1.56% a year under Democrats and declined by 0.32% a year under Republicans. In other words, the gap between the rich and the rest grew substantially wider under Republican administrations.
How does one benchmark their sources? Anyone who did not know these well proven concepts should be examining their propaganda for bias.

Even Capital One keeps asking, "What's in your Wallet?"

JBKlyde 10-13-2012 06:34 PM

Obama is a Fool.. the only reason anyone gives a shit about him is because he's the first black president and he is trying to make history. Unfortunately the history he is making is the down fall of american civilization as we know it. I think he is the anti Christ and if dose not start standing up for Israel then he should just shove a frog up his ass and lick his shit cause the only change that will happen is the extreme visuals of his diluted campaign...

monster 10-13-2012 07:34 PM

you don't like blacks?

Why do you think he is the anti-christ? 'Cause he seems pretty fucking christian to me.....

and Israel? Um?

Are you a nazi?

JBKlyde 10-13-2012 07:49 PM

I just think he's full of shit.. for not standing up to all these Islam extremist who think Israel should be annihilated..

Ibby 10-13-2012 07:54 PM

In what way is he not standing up to Islamist extremists? Specifically, I mean. What has he done, or not done, that other presidents or candidates did not or would not do, or did and would do? How does Romney's position stand up to extremists more effectively?


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