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BigV 07-26-2012 12:37 AM

yes, it's based on "4% for Freedom". It's based on a bumper sticker.

**I** believe it should be based on our security needs instead. For that matter, how do you think the Def Dept (or the congressional vultures hawks) would respond to FALLING budgets during recessionary times?

It's dumb, also because we don't need MORE money put into defense.

Furthermore, it's based on what the economy produces, GDP. Not related in any way to the government's revenues. Not based on, you know, taxes. But hey, our net worth is x dollars, therefore, 0.04x must be spent on defense. Completely asinine.

classicman 07-26-2012 12:55 AM

Pretty much. Whats the number based upon now, PFA?

Lamplighter 07-26-2012 09:22 AM

How about: need vs want ?

Stormieweather 07-26-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 821738)
I heard a report that Mr Romney that he intends to increase defense budget by an additional two trillion dollars over a decade.

What the hell?????

Because why? Because we're... unsafe? Because we're going to be invaded? How much education could two trillion dollars produce? How much economic value would be returned for an investment of two trillion dollars in the young people (and less young) of our nation?

Here's your cite.

Why? Because he has buddies in the defense industry. What smokescreen he'll try to use on the American public to sell this process, I have no idea.

Spexxvet 07-27-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather (Post 821791)
Why? Because he has buddies in the defense industry. What smokescreen he'll try to use on the American public to sell this process, I have no idea.

"I've never been in the army, but I have a friend who owns an army"

ZenGum 07-27-2012 08:03 AM

:lol:

Ahh, that line has stuck, hasn't it.

Griff 07-27-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 821875)
"I've never been in the army, but I have a friend who owns an army"

He may have one in January then Mitt and Bibi can invade Iran... woot.

Lamplighter 07-27-2012 11:57 AM

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There was a time when another Republican was running for the Presidency.
He too had a personality that did not connect well with the average voter.
He too campaigned on a "I have a plan".
The slogan was in most of his campaign speeches.
But when asked about specifics, he was silent or very vague.

He was elected to the Presidency, and then re-elected four years later.
His inauguration was on Jan 20th..
Six years later, his secret plan finally came to fruition on April 29th.

tw 07-27-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 821901)
Six years later, his secret plan finally came to fruition on April 29th.

The Nixon tapes, still slowly being transcribed at U of Maryland, revealed his secret plan. In conversations with Kissinger just after taking office, Nixon admitted the war was not winnable. But that a loss must not occur on Nixon's watch. His legacy - not America - was always most important.

He had plenty of secret plans he just could not share with Americans. So many that the US Supreme Court took precautions when they ruled unanimously against Nixon and the subpoena for his tapes. Too many secret plans (and expletives) might be revealed.

Another secret solution was a message to N Vietnam to not accept Johnson's peace proposals because Nixon would offer them a better deal. Sound like treason? Yep. Best kept secret.

Well, his campaign now claims, repeatedly, the US Navy is smaller than it was before WWI. And its all Obama's fault. He has a secret plan to massively increase the military while cutting spending.

ZenGum 07-27-2012 08:09 PM

Recycled from the graphs and charts thread

Attachment 37942

Uhh, the bit in the middle suggests you're already spending 4.91% of GDP on defense. Uh?


And seriously, no nation comes even close to the US defense budget. And of the also-rans, about half of them are allies (Britain, France, for what that's worth ;) ) or cooperative states (Germany, Japan, kinda Saudi, although I wouldn't trust them) or mostly neutral (India, Brazil). Only China and Russia could be considered even potentially belligerent. IMHO, you're defended enough already.

Watch those damn Canadians, though. Anyone that friendly must be up to something.

Lamplighter 07-27-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 821935)
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Watch those damn Canadians, though. Anyone that friendly must be up to something.

They have water, and are just defending themselves from becoming the 51-60th stars in the US flag.

ZenGum 07-27-2012 09:19 PM

Water of Mineral Dissolution?

:shock:


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