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ZenGum 02-26-2012 08:01 PM

Your make-believe game does not excuse you for breaking the law.

If you want to live under Sharia law, there are plenty of countries where you can. You will note that many of them are #$%&ed up hell-holes. There is probably some kind of connection there, but never mind.

See, I'm not that liberal.

BrianR 02-27-2012 12:07 PM

WHS ^

Sundae 02-27-2012 12:19 PM

While I agree to an extent with what Zen said, I am really uncomfortable with the idea that a Muslim is not an American. I know a family of reasonably devout Muslims who emigrated to America and are doing well in Houston, Texas.

Dad prays five times a day and the family attend Mosque every week.
They celebrate all festivals and fast during Ramadan. They live by the five pillars of Islam. They are moderate people who would not attack anyone in the street, although as per their religion the older generation would feel offended by Zombie Mohammed, same as my father was offended by Piss Christ.

I admire the Dutch, who in a video about emigrating to the Netherlands showed images of topless women and homosexual men. The idea being that if the video offended you, at least you were pre-warned about what you would face in your new home.

Many people are offended by many things. I think some should be open to discussion. Obviously things like abortion and birth control are above discussion and if people are offended by that they should shut their cakehole or go and live in a Catholic country.

classicman 02-27-2012 01:06 PM

All in 4 paragraphs you support one religion and shit on another.
Good job, Sundae.

Happy Monkey 02-27-2012 01:21 PM

She supported moderates and shit on theocrats. As it should be.

Sundae 02-27-2012 01:23 PM

ETA - posted before I read HP's comment. I suppose I might have been shitting on theocrats. I'm not sure, I don't know how to recognise that feeling.

I was not shitting on anyone.
The last sentence was a tongue in cheek way of turning the tables to see how it looked from a different angle.

I live in a Catholic household with practicing parents.
I don't think my parents should move "back home" to Ireland. Especially as it is only Mum's side that comes from there.

classicman 02-27-2012 01:23 PM

Read like generalizing and stereotyping to me.
Perhaps that wasn't her intent. Dunno.

wolf 02-27-2012 03:20 PM

Interesting that if you beat up Zombie Mohammed and get a Muslim judge, you get off.

Would the same have happened with Zombie Jesus and a Christian Judge? Unlikely, you'd be convicted of assault. Actually, you probably wouldn't have engaged in the assault to begin with, just been offended by the costume, but shrugged it off. Ditto for Zombie Moses.

Spexxvet 02-27-2012 03:30 PM

Ever read To Kill A Mockingbird?

Happy Monkey 02-27-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 798018)
ETA - posted before I read HP's comment. I suppose I might have been shitting on theocrats. I'm not sure, I don't know how to recognise that feeling.

I was not shitting on anyone.

You really weren't; I just used classicman's wording to indicate that your comparison wasn't between Muslims and Catholics, but between moderates and theocrats.

Sundae 02-27-2012 03:50 PM

I just had glass topped tables in mind.

wolf 02-27-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 798050)
Ever read To Kill A Mockingbird?

Surprising as it may seem, no. But I have seen the movie. Reading it is on my to-do list.

Sundae 02-27-2012 03:55 PM

In that case I need to be the girl who cried, Wolf!
Outside of any political or cultural issues, it's such an accessible classic.

Then again, I read it at 14 and have read it about every three years since.
I have no idea what impact it might have on an adult who already knows the story.

The two scenes which imprinted on my brain had nothing to do with the court case.
But they probably were in the film.
Oh and a couple of ideas and images.
You know - it was good to read it young :)

ZenGum 02-27-2012 04:48 PM

"Shits on theocrats" .... user title!


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