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BigV 02-10-2012 01:39 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, allow me to present



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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 794314)
This was the simplest and most coherent answer.

Bravo.. Fargon

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Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias, myside bias or verification bias) is a tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses.[Note 1][1] People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.
Thank you!

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Now where is my g-d banana?!

JBKlyde 02-10-2012 01:47 PM

well.. Big V I was in a way leaving Fargo a banana because he was right.

I do thank you for your participation..

leaves banana for Big V.

BigV 02-10-2012 01:50 PM

You didn't click the link, didja?

thanks for the banana anyhow!

JBKlyde 02-10-2012 02:29 PM

yes I did...

JBKlyde 02-10-2012 05:45 PM

An example how to hope to heaven rather than hope to hell.

Wisdom tells me when I die my soul goes UP to some higher space realm called heaven. Common Since tells me when I die my Body Goes Down Tor-ward the Earth. Reality tells me 2 minutes before that happens, I'm going to be in A-lot of pain.

ZenGum 02-10-2012 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fargon (Post 794282)
Always hope to heaven!!! Heaven and hell are real places.

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 794314)
This was the simplest and most coherent answer.

Bravo.. Fargon

Well, JB is kind of right. Fargon's answer is simple and it is coherent (until you start pushing for details).

Does it accurately represent reality? There is no evidence for this.

JBK has said that he is on a search for truth. I think that is not quite right. I think he is, like many people, searching for an answer. It must be understandable, it must be more or less coherent. It must enable him to say, Right, that's what's going on, which means I should live my life this way.

Whether it is true in the sense of corresponding to reality is optional. And given how horribly messy, complicated and unhuman reality seems to be, an answer which meets the psychological requirements listed above is very unlikely to be true.

What is it you want, JBK? "An" answer that will end the doubt and confusion and provide guidance and maybe even a feeling of satisfaction? Or "the truth", regardless of how lonely and desolate it might leave you feeling?

I think I have gone for the second option. A lonely and desolate universe is quite nice once you get used to the idea, an you're not constantly worried about the Giant Santa in the Sky commanding and judging you.

JBKlyde 02-10-2012 07:30 PM

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What is it you want, JBK? "An" answer that will end the doubt and confusion and provide guidance and maybe even a feeling of satisfaction? Or "the truth", regardless of how lonely and desolate it might leave you feeling?
I just want a God I can have fun with. I'm an intellectual and often times I like to think up new Ideas and think outside the box. As long as I have a fighting chance of making it to heaven. (An that's why Jesus Died on the Cross) I'm gonna keep fighting the good fight. Jesus Died on the Cross to forgive US of our sins and I'm gonna respect it. Therefore I will turn form evil do good and live my life according to the standard Jesus set. You don't believe it, so I'm not gonna force it on you however "separation of church and state" was a guarantee to keep politics out of church not church out of politics. Where they messed up at was when they took prayer out of schools. Now the Country Is just so screwed in the head that an entire generation is suffering the repercussions of Godlessness. So where I come in is as a freelance renegade fighting for the children.

HungLikeJesus 02-10-2012 07:43 PM

Ha!

Like the missionaries that offer starving children a meal in exchange for their freedom?

JBKlyde 02-10-2012 07:47 PM

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Like the missionaries that offer starving children a meal in exchange for their freedom?
NO not at all like that.. In fact I've never even heard of that... wanna explain it??

ZenGum 02-10-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 794421)
I just want a God I can have fun with. etc etc.


The first option then. A functional answer. Fair enough. Good luck.

HungLikeJesus 02-10-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JBKlyde (Post 794426)
NO not at all like that.. In fact I've never even heard of that... wanna explain it??

Well, let's start with this: what do missionaries do? What's their function?

JBKlyde 02-10-2012 08:48 PM

they reach out to lost souls..

wolf 02-10-2012 09:22 PM

Sure you didn't leave out a P? Hopping to Hell? Better conveyance than a handbasket.

Oh, and you discovered the exclamation warning sign thingy? Is your real first name Pam?

tw 02-10-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 794305)
I am certain of nothing but of the holiness of the Heart's affections

How did the Pope and affections become same? Or did you mean a heart's infections? Can you die if the Pope infects your heart? Is that why religion kills so many people?

Could be worse. I could have god in my heart.

Does that mean I would feel like hell? And end up in heaven?

sexobon 02-11-2012 09:52 PM

You put your pitchfork in,
You put your pitchfork out,
You put your pitchfork in
And you shake it all about.
You hope to hell it's copasetic
And you hope to heaven too.
That's what it's all about.

You put your pointed tail in,
You put your pointed tail out,


(you finish the lyrics)


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