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wolf 11-02-2011 02:04 PM

Then there's the case of Adolf Hitler, Honszlynn, and Aryan Nation Campbell (Actually the girl's name is JoyceLynn, Aryan Nation is her middle name). This is the case that broke over a Birthday Cake ... ShopRite dimed them out to the NJ Department of Youth and Family Services, and refused to put Adolf's name on the cake.

There was no neglect. There was no abuse.

The children were taken out of the home because of their names ... the children were removed from the home because of alleged abuse and incompetent parenting ... well, the investigations have shown the charges to be unfounded and where are the kids? Still in foster care.

Okay, so the parents are idiots. But other than having crazy beliefs, they're apparently not bad parents.

Now, I think the kids names are stupider than stupid can be, but as far as such things go, it's no stupider than a lot of the homemade names folks are coming up with these days.

classicman 11-02-2011 02:41 PM

My daughter knows a girl named Azalea?!?!?
How about Keith Krimson Kaut whom I went to HS with.

Yep - the lines are blurred.

wolf 11-02-2011 04:05 PM

I'm still trying to figure out Jaden/Jaydan/Jai-Da'an/Jaedun/etc/adnauseum. Especially when neither (presumed) parent's name involves either a "J" or a "Dan."

monster 11-03-2011 05:15 PM

Azalea is a flowering shrub. People have been naming girls after flowers forever. Why should azalea be unacceptable?

classicman 11-03-2011 05:45 PM

Because I don't like it and I said, so that's why.

GunMaster357 11-03-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 769938)
People have been naming girls after flowers forever.

Could lead to some funny situations.

For example, in French, the vernacular name of the White stonecrop is "trique-madame".

Which roughly translates as "fuck woman".

monster 11-03-2011 07:26 PM

And Hebe is apparently an offensive nickname for Jews in America. But it's also a beautiful flowering shrub, and the name has been used occasionally since the early 1900s in England, and is apparently popular in Japan. (It originates from Greek Mythology -Hebe is the daughter of Zeus and hera and cupbearer to the gods -the goddess of youth, Juventas in Roman terms)

Srsly, there would be no names if we overthink it. Babies are still being named John, Willie, Dave and Dick. My niece just got named Orla. I so hope beest is wrong about what her nick-name will be when she gets to high school.

that said, I'm not into names with punctuation. Although, now I think it through, it's kind of a fun "fuck you" to grammar nazis. Spend years being told you're putting apostrophe's (;)) in the wrong place... once it's on the birth cert it's the right place even if it follows no grammatical logic.

ZenGum 11-03-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 769938)
Azalea is a flowering shrub. People have been naming girls after flowers forever. Why should azalea be unacceptable?

She'll be eaten by a semi-literate dingo.

I'm in a bit of a mood today, and the OP is pissing me off. Why should someone get to fill some poor child's head with vicious, harmful bull$#'! that will leave it with years of trauma? If you did that to someone else's kid you'd be thrown in prison.

A lot of religions are harmful and spiteful, and only perpetuate themselves by obliging their adherents to breed and brainwash their children into the religion. Sod that. Raise the kids with an open view and allow them to choose when they are adults. Somehow.

I know it is socially very dangerous to say what people can and cannot teach their children, but I think we need to make some kind of limits.

If the bible were brought before censors nowadays it would be rated MA(V) 18+. And yet we let people shove this down the throats of children.

SamIam 11-03-2011 08:58 PM

The Old Testament is pornographic and Revelations was written by a psycho on crack. Children should be strongly discouraged from going anywhere near it. I wish the Rapture would hurry up and arrive so we could be rid of the Republican party. Children excepted, of course. :eyebrow:

Rrrraven 11-04-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 770018)
I wish the Rapture would hurry up and arrive so we could be rid of the Republican party. :

I just snorted so loud it woke my dog up.

DanaC 11-04-2011 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 769977)
She'll be eaten by a semi-literate dingo.

I'm in a bit of a mood today, and the OP is pissing me off. Why should someone get to fill some poor child's head with vicious, harmful bull$#'! that will leave it with years of trauma? If you did that to someone else's kid you'd be thrown in prison.

A lot of religions are harmful and spiteful, and only perpetuate themselves by obliging their adherents to breed and brainwash their children into the religion. Sod that. Raise the kids with an open view and allow them to choose when they are adults. Somehow.

I know it is socially very dangerous to say what people can and cannot teach their children, but I think we need to make some kind of limits.

If the bible were brought before censors nowadays it would be rated MA(V) 18+. And yet we let people shove this down the throats of children.


:notworthy

footfootfoot 11-04-2011 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 769977)
Sod that. Raise the kids with an open view and allow them to choose when they are adults. Somehow.

Rumspringa RULES!

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Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 770018)
The Old Testament is pornographic and Revelations was written by a psycho on crack.

Actually, revelations is an example of a popular genre of writing called Apocalyptic literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalyptic_literature

Lamplighter 11-04-2011 08:37 AM

Which came first, the pornography or the Apocalyptic literature ? ;)

Pete Zicato 11-04-2011 12:07 PM

http://i.imgur.com/L3EsV.png

Stormieweather 11-04-2011 08:30 PM

Funny, I get a lot of flack from people who ask me what religious beliefs I've instilled in my children and I respond with...tolerance, diversity and a conscience.


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