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Trilby 08-20-2011 07:51 AM

What is of note is that a lot of conservatives also identify as Christian and Christ taught that the poor should be taken care of - they should be helped. They forget that part. They only remember the gay/abortion/gay/abortion/gay/abortion and gays having abortions and abortions creating gays and abortionist gays stuff.

Weird.

DanaC 08-20-2011 07:59 AM

lol very well put.

tw 08-20-2011 09:42 AM

A wonderful report in the Current Events section. Especially when it identified those who could not see a joke. That is a Current and never ending Event.

Spexxvet 08-20-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 751487)
It did nothing for humor in that it was basically all the bullshit that one sees daily from extremists.

With all due respect, that's the way I feel about most of the so called "funny" political pictures that you post.

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 751535)
Did you see the Daily Show segment the other day about Fox news and their reports on how the "poor" are no longer really poor, to the extent that they now put the word in inverted comments every time they use it...because apparently most poor people have a fridge and a microwave? Awesome piece.

Yes, it was awesome. I wish I could could post just that clip.

This isn't about left/right, conservative/liberal, Democrat/repubican. It IS class warfare.

Clodfobble 08-20-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet
I wish I could could post just that clip.

Oh but you can! Unfortunately my laptop is now having video driver issues along with audio (getting repaired tomorrow,) so I can't hunt it down for you. But if you go to www.dailyshow.com and search through the videos link, you should be able to find the individual clip.

SamIam 08-20-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 751569)
A wonderful report in the Current Events section. Especially when it identified those who could not see a joke. That is a Current and never ending Event.

Thank you, tw, for not being one of the people to just read the first sentence and get all huffy.

And thank you to everyone else for your comments (especially the nice ones - I like nice comments :blush:).

Only someone who never read the paper or watched the news could not be aware of the very strong class element in the current US political scene. I mean come on, no new (old) taxes for the wealthy and the big corporations? Yet on the other hand, people living at 125% below the poverty level should sacrifice for "their country"?

Our most vulnerable citizens should sacrifice their housing, their food, and their medical care, so that the billionaires can continue to squirrell their money into off-shore accounts and create new jobs for the people - the people in Rwanda?

This entire mess is about idealogy - bottom line.

infinite monkey 08-20-2011 10:38 AM

I like to log in just to see who Sam is voting for in 2012. Sam, you are cracking me up! Goering. *snicker*

wolf 08-20-2011 11:49 AM

Poverty is winning.

Get back to me when something changes.

Trilby 08-20-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 751596)
Poverty is winning.

Do you mean 'winning' in a Charlie Sheen sort of way, or...?

DanaC 08-20-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 751570)
With all due respect, that's the way I feel about most of the so called "funny" political pictures that you post.

Oh me too! i've really tried hard not to be a jerk about it in the political pictures section, but there are times I've really had to bite my tongue.

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This isn't about left/right, conservative/liberal, Democrat/repubican. It IS class warfare.
*nods*

As soon as large sections of the population become generationally entrenched within their economic positions, low or high, and the mechanisms of governance and wealth creation focused on one or two of the sections whilst excluding the others then class antagonism is a factor.

I'm really not even sure I blame them. The upper class (the top tier, the elite, whatever you want to call them) are doing what they have always done. And, presumably will continue to do. They're defending their interests. And I am sure they do not feel they are damaging the country, because, for them it is their country. And they will shape it to serve their needs as much as they are able to.

Their biggest victory (as has been posted elsewhere here) is that they have managed to get so many people to work against their own interests and for the interests of that elite.

Reminds me of that parasite that can affect small animals and make them act contrary to their natural instincts. The infected mouse, intsead of scurrying in the undergrowth, comes out and parades about the ground making itself a target for a passing hawk; who nabs the mouse and ingests the parasite.

classicman 08-20-2011 11:13 PM

nice. now I'm considered a huffy parasite.
Excellent. Mission accomplished

DanaC 08-21-2011 01:11 AM

*sticks tongue out at Classic *

You're not the parasite dummy :p

Trilby 08-21-2011 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 751695)
nice. now I'm considered a huffy parasite.

There was a Russian version of the Itchy and Scratchy cartoon only it was called Worker and Parasite.

I lol'd.

Sundae 08-21-2011 07:44 AM

Listening to 5 Live this morning (a BBC radio station) there was a lady who's worked for over 20 years to get families back into work.

She's now been employed by David Cameron (our Prime Minister).
Right up my street, right?

T e c h n i c a l l y...... yes.
But given that I'm rabidly searching for another job for myself - NO.
I'm not mocking her, dismissing her, criticising her.
But her apparent target (set by Govt) is 220 thousand families.

I can't get a second job.
Okay, I have time limitations - I can only work outside of school times.
But surely this applies to other mothers too.

And I have a food hygiene certificate, an enhanced CRB (Criminal Records Bureau check) computer skills, supermarket, bar and restaurant experience and so on and so on.

I have no criticism for people trying to get the jobless into work. Anything is better than nothing. It's just - selfishly - I wish they'd start with me. I've applied to work at two supermarkets. No reply. At two places the children at school go for birthday parties - no reply. At countless pubs & restaurants. No reply.

I'm not blowing my own trumpet here (yes I am) but I'd do a much better job than their current sulky-teenage hate-children staff. For the same wage. And I'd be bloody grateful for it too.

Driving me crazy.

Griff 08-21-2011 12:37 PM

My classroom aide's low paying job knocked her off medicare which she needed for her and her child's very necessary medications, thankfully she'll be full-time in the fall qualifying for the company plan... which will eat up much of her paycheck but is better than nuthin.


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