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footfootfoot 08-14-2011 12:19 PM

Totally Grifftopic. Will you miss the water dripping down the back of your neck when you come into the house?

Why is the mortise so deep? Is it a lap or saddle joint?

Undertoad 08-14-2011 12:33 PM

You must have an enormous caulk

ing gun

Griff 08-14-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 750238)
Totally Grifftopic. Will you miss the water dripping down the back of your neck when you come into the house?

Why is the mortise so deep? Is it a lap or saddle joint?

I'll miss the terminal velocity snow knocking me unconscious when the morning sun warms the roof.

Its a lap joint. I like to have a lot of material around the peg holes to reduce the chances of a full split when I drive it in. The forces on the joint are minimal so it is an aesthetic choice as well.

HungLikeJesus 08-14-2011 03:10 PM

Do you have any pictures of the wooden pegs?

Griff 08-14-2011 03:31 PM

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I have an old one of us doing a Yeungling commercial with a peg driven but not cut off. The peg is left with edges so it bites into the joint. You can't use dowels because of weakness since dowels don't follow the grain.

TheMercenary 08-14-2011 03:33 PM

thanks. I am going to order those books today. Again, beautiful work. Well done.

TheMercenary 08-14-2011 03:35 PM

Did you use a hand drill to drill the holes? what size? or is in some ratio based on the thickness of the wood and joints?

Griff 08-14-2011 03:55 PM

I used an inch and a quarter bit in a hand drill. There are some really cool old-timey mortising rigs you can use but for the house frame I only had a long auger bit on a heavy duty Milwalkee drill. I'm sure there are ratios that could be used, but I don't get too caught up in my lack of knowlege, when in doubt I overbuild. Most of timber framing is received knowledge from failures and successes since forever. These are probably as reliable as strength of materials indexes with the exception being old growth lumber had much tighter growth rings and was (is) stronger than modern trees which grew more quickly in less dense environments.

Gravdigr 08-14-2011 05:17 PM

:thumb:

classicman 08-14-2011 07:43 PM

very cool. looks great.

Aliantha 08-15-2011 12:28 AM

That's awesome Griff. I'm so impressed. :)

xoxoxoBruce 08-15-2011 01:32 AM

Looks great, and will be super functional as well... the question is, how many goats will it hold. ;)

Griff 08-15-2011 03:12 PM

Definitely not goat tight construction.

BigV 08-23-2011 09:48 AM

I looked up "commander". Wow. I have the end piece of an enormous beam, say, 6"x14"x24". I imagine I could bomb a hole through it and wedge it down onto a baseball bat and voila! That is one serious tool.

Griff, I applaud you for your accomplishment here. I am humbled by your skill. Congratulations on a job very well done.

Griff 08-23-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 750202)
Digging the wooden pegs. Did you go some where to learn that or just read about how to do it. I have a plan in my head for a pavilion in my back yard using that technique.

I almost forgot, you can take a timber-framing class from these guys. I took a home-building course from them, but not the timber class. The Shelter Institute


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