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TheMercenary 04-07-2011 08:21 PM

God has nothing to do with it Sarge. However, guns have much to do with it. Liberals hate the Second Amendment.

BigV 04-10-2011 01:51 PM

hey mercy....

*I* am a Liberal, and I'll tell you what *I* hate: useless, overbroad generalizations that do nothing but fuel prejudice and masquerade as understanding. Like, say, :
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Originally Posted by theMercenary
Liberals hate the Second Amendment.

I refuse to believe you believe that. And yet, you repeat it. I do not hate the Second Amendment. Don't exacerbate our serious problems by perpetuating misinformation.

Tulip 04-10-2011 05:27 PM

Why am I answering in the politics section? I dunno...I hate politics. Anyhoo....I don't like Obama, and I don't like McCain. My point, I don't see anyone who's a good leader for the country at the moment. It's not if he's a Republican or a Democrat but is he strong enough to lead and help our country. I have nothing to propose so I'll shut up now and quietly leave the politics forum. :p:

monster 04-10-2011 11:40 PM

Griff for Pres! Cellarity Party!

Griff 04-11-2011 06:03 AM

Well, I have always been fascinated by the end of empires. ;)

plthijinx 04-12-2011 09:11 PM

fuck obama.

he rose too fast in the political arena to handle being president. he cannot do the job. bullshit gets you to the top but actions keep you there.

Spexxvet 04-13-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 722753)
fuck obama.

he rose too fast in the political arena to handle being president. he cannot do the job. bullshit gets you to the top but actions keep you there.

'splain, please.

plthijinx 04-13-2011 12:28 PM

he rose in Illinois very quickly. he said the right things to the people. basically what people wanted to hear, you know the routine, promise this promise that then don't follow through. typical politician. then he kept on saying what people wanted to hear. now, granted i didn't get to vote against him, and i would have, because of my hiatus from society. but i am able to vote now. i just believe that he hasn't done a very good job as president and believe he will be a one termer. he has done nothing but help gas prices rise for example. cancelling permits and leases like they're going out of style. among other things. i don't expect everyone to accept my views but i sure won't change mine. he sucks. plain and simple. bush wasn't hardly any better. hell i wish we could go back to the clinton era.

Fair&Balanced 04-15-2011 05:30 PM

The quote of the week about the other side, from one of their own, former Republican Senator Alan Simpson:
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...Simpson really laid into his party, starting with abortion.

"Who the hell is for abortion? I don't know anybody running around with a sign that says 'Have an abortion, they're wonderful.' They're hideous. But they're a deeply intimate and personal decision and I don't think men legislators should even vote on the issue."

Simpson also went off on Republicans for their stance on gay rights, singling out potential 2012 nominee Rick Santorum as the worst offender.

"...We have homophobes in our party. That's disgusting to me. We're all human beings. We're all God's children. Now, if they're going to get off on that stuff...Now, you know, that's the kind of guys that are going to be on my ticket, you know, it makes you sort out hard what Reagan said, you know, 'stick with your folks.' But I'm not sticking with people who are homophobic, anti-women, you know, moral values while you're diddling your secretary, while you're giving a speech on moral values. Come on, get off of it."

http://www.businessinsider.com/alan-...n-video-2011-4
The man tells it like it is!

TheMercenary 04-15-2011 05:56 PM

No worries about that ass-hole Obama, you already laid the ground work....

Republicans will make US 'Third World' nation: Obama


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110415...20110415045805

TheMercenary 04-15-2011 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plthijinx (Post 722826)
he rose in Illinois very quickly. he said the right things to the people. basically what people wanted to hear, you know the routine, promise this promise that then don't follow through. typical politician. then he kept on saying what people wanted to hear. now, granted i didn't get to vote against him, and i would have, because of my hiatus from society. but i am able to vote now. i just believe that he hasn't done a very good job as president and believe he will be a one termer. he has done nothing but help gas prices rise for example. cancelling permits and leases like they're going out of style. among other things. i don't expect everyone to accept my views but i sure won't change mine. he sucks. plain and simple. bush wasn't hardly any better. hell i wish we could go back to the clinton era.

Rahm "it up your arse" Emanuel is doing the same thing now... winning friends and influencing the people.... He told everyone what they wanted to hear to get elected.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...Bad-Press.html

TheMercenary 04-15-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 722413)
hey mercy....

*I* am a Liberal, and I'll tell you what *I* hate: useless, overbroad generalizations that do nothing but fuel prejudice and masquerade as understanding. Like, say, :


I refuse to believe you believe that. And yet, you repeat it. I do not hate the Second Amendment. Don't exacerbate our serious problems by perpetuating misinformation.

By and large it is quite a true statement. Why would you believe otherwise? Because you are an exception to that rule?????

So you are the exception. Look at only from a legislative point of view and see how many politicians on the Left of center support restrictive gun control. I don't see how you could make such a silly statement.

TheMercenary 04-15-2011 06:14 PM

Given our history in Presidential Politics I think it will get much uglier then he thinks....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...cond_term.html

BigV 04-15-2011 09:27 PM

Jeebus, mercy. I consider you smarter than that. Think about what you're saying. If the threshold is "silly", then your statement wins. "Liberals hate the Second Amendment". My point is that when bumper sticker sized labels are used in place of real dialog, no understanding is possible. And when you repeat such nonsense, you opt out of the conversation.

A closed mouth may gather no foot, but a closed mind gathers no knowledge.

Urbane Guerrilla 04-16-2011 03:59 AM

V, frankly if you're going to take that attitude and not immediately improve simply everyone's understanding of the liberal mind vis-à-vis the Second, you'll deserve some pretty rough handling. Do you recognize that you are not helping -- only grousing?

I'd have a much better idea you esteem the Second Amendment if I saw you taking up the cudgels in its defense and its propagation, to convert minds away from the criminal, genocidal way. So there's the gauntlet I toss: do it or STFU it. If it's important enough, you won't care about how much attitude I'm giving you, right?

Now, where might plthijinx get that idea, do you suppose? Might it be, for one of ten thousand instances, the lifetime's work of Senator Charles Schumer, called a liberal by, well, how many? Just about everybody short of lefthanded Latvian bisexuals? The man betrays his own religion and perhaps the memory of certain distant relatives even, by his lifetime championing of you-can't-have-guns (but the State can), that essential precondition for a genocide.

New Yorkers born and raised have an education problem: they do not live under the full exercise of all the civil rights their countrymen have, and this skews them. Most never have, not having been born in the year of the Sullivan Law's enactment, 1911. At least, they could leave NYC if they wanted to have all the rights the lion's share of the country enjoys.


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