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Undertoad 01-11-2011 07:53 AM

Y'know, I don't think they would scan a dog with the backscatter machine. I think if you are singled out for scanning, they will probably x-ray the crate and then you could put the dog back in the crate while you get scanned.

They may examine the dog by hand, though it would be kind of obvious that the dog is not carrying a bomb. The idea of the backscatter machine is to see under your clothes to see if you're hiding liquid explosives. The dog can't do that unless s/he's dressed. And the Chi is too small to hide enough plastic explosives up its butt.

footfootfoot 01-11-2011 09:07 AM


Shawnee123 01-11-2011 09:10 AM

I don't care if they probe me, so long as Loughner or the like isn't sitting next to me plotting to rule the world. ;)

kerosene 01-11-2011 09:29 AM

Probably grope. I just don't necessarily trust the safety of those machines. The fewer x-rays the better, I say.

Beest 01-11-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 704751)
If the rumors are right and they scramble DNA

I haggis'd, the made sure to do my background reading.
http://www.hpa.org.uk/Topics/Radiati.../BodyScanners/

I am a radiation safety professional, you're getting more radiation on the flight, than going through the scanner.

monster 01-11-2011 11:38 AM

But it doesn't say it doesn't scramble your DNA......... it just says it's low dose radiation. Those aliens are sneaky that way, making it look all safe and shit.....

monster 01-11-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beest (Post 704897)
I am a radiation safety professional.

he says that to all the chicks......

Shawnee123 01-11-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monster (Post 704900)
he says that to all the chicks......

:lol:

glatt 01-11-2011 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beest (Post 704897)
I am a radiation safety professional, you're getting more radiation on the flight, than going through the scanner.

What I have read elsewhere is that it's comparing apples to oranges when it comes to radiation dosage. A typical x-ray machine in a doctor's office will give you a set amount of radiation and that's averaged out over your whole body to come up with the exposure number. The backscatter machines use a certain amount of radiation, and when they publish that number, they average it out over your whole body as well. But what I've read is that this is a bad comparison because the backscatter machine only penetrates a couple of millimeters. So when you average out the total radiation over the actual tissue that's being radiated, it's orders of magnitude higher for that tissue. The published numbers are simply wrong, according to what I've read. And for men, especially boys with smaller ones, the vital tissue that's being radiated at these high levels are the testicles.

I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about this, I only know what I've read. So I could be wrong, but what I've read about this leaves me with unsettled questions. I'm not confident that they have been proven safe, but based on what I know now, I would not let my son go through one.

Once some trusted entity other than the TSA shows them to be safe, I'll change my tune. But I don't trust the TSA at all to tell the truth.

Pico and ME 01-11-2011 12:21 PM

I will be visiting my Mom again this Spring, and if I decide to fly instead of drive, I will go through the scan. They won, because I really don't want to be groped.

Shawnee123 01-11-2011 12:23 PM

I guess I would go scan, but the screen is, like...hidden right? I mean, I have this fear of my nekkid self on some airport jumbotron or something. Sure would clear the flight. :vomit:

monster 01-11-2011 12:32 PM

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monster 01-11-2011 12:33 PM

I may get in trouble for that one.....

Shawnee123 01-11-2011 12:42 PM

If the TSA agents look like that, go for the grope! :p:

Pico and ME 01-11-2011 12:43 PM

Daaaammmmnnnnnnnnn...thats Beest?

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