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HungLikeJesus 11-19-2010 04:39 PM

Is she a kiss'n'teller?

footfootfoot 11-19-2010 04:56 PM

Thus my caution...

BigV 11-19-2010 05:54 PM

I have one of those too. Her name is Nina. So far, I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to persuade her to accept my direct deposit.

monster 11-19-2010 08:15 PM

She has a low interest rate, huh?

footfootfoot 11-19-2010 08:30 PM

She's concerned about the possibility of early withdrawal.

freshnesschronic 11-20-2010 01:15 AM

Sorry friends, I got a Chase account.

xoxoxoBruce 11-20-2010 02:37 AM

Went right to the root of all evil, huh. Hope you have better luck than I had... twice.

monster 11-20-2010 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 695233)
Sorry friends, I got a Chase account.

Any fool can ask for advice.

Lamplighter 11-20-2010 01:19 PM

We recently had a significant breakdown on our car, and the repair bill was more than the free cash we had on hand.
So I signed up for a Goodyear credit card that gives interest free for 6 months. I will pay it off before 6 months.

BUT... If the account balance is not paid off within 6 months, the interest rate goes up over 29 %,
and the fine print makes it look as though that rate is back-dated to the original date of purchase.

I can't put into words the outrage I feel towards any company that would charge such rates.

If the TeaParty-ers are going to revolt on anything, the first priority should be against the credit card industry
and the US Supreme Court decision that effectively nullified all State laws on usury.

monster 11-20-2010 05:54 PM

If they say up front that's what's going to happen, I don't see the problem. Yup 29% is outrageous, but you know that when you get into it. If there's any doubt that's you'll pay it off, you don't take the deal. If you can't get any affordable credit, then you take the bus.

Lamplighter 11-20-2010 06:55 PM

Monster, there was no problem for me in terms of credit or cash.
The Goodyear credit card was a convenience for me until the end of this month.

The problem is that a 29+ % interest rate is more than outrageous,
and there is nothing to stop corporations from this usury.

By the way, "usury" in the dictionary is:
Quote:

the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
But the US Supreme Court decision changed that definition, it is now:
Quote:

the legal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
I believe similar interest rates are to be found on many of the "company" credit cards, such as Goodyear.
I also suspect there are similar interest rates existing on the generic cards, such as Visa, MasterCharge, etc.

I further believe that most people who get into trouble with their credit are not truly aware
of all the fees and rates and conditions that come into play when an account balance is not paid in full
by the next date due.

It is just way to easy to excuse or ignore the situation by blaming the victims.

monster 11-20-2010 07:40 PM

I don't believe it's unreasonable if it's stated up front.

monster 11-20-2010 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 695370)
I further believe that most people who get into trouble with their credit are not truly aware
of all the fees and rates and conditions that come into play when an account balance is not paid in full
by the next date due.

But why are they not aware? Did they fail to read what they signed, or were they lied to?

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It is just way to easy to excuse or ignore the situation by blaming the victims.
bullshit. No victims here unless they were lied to. You sign something without reading it or without understanding it.... you get what you deserve.

It's OK not to understand something, it' s OK to ask questions. It's OK to walk away without signing. it's not OK to do whatever the fuck you what to get the shit you want without care of the consequences because it's something you can't actually afford.

Lamplighter 11-20-2010 08:42 PM

Has anyone ever actually read thru the "Notice of Terms and Conditions" for their credit cards ?

I recently got one for the Visa account we've had for about 40+ years.
It was one piece of paper printed on both sides in fairly small print...
folded and re-folded so there actually were 18 pages of printed material.
On other such "Notices" the print is so small I can't read it,
and on some the font is almost the same gray contrast as the paper.

That's part of what I mean by people not being truly aware because the companies
use these devises to overwhelm the reader and give up.
The other part is that people are probably being overly optimistic about their ability to re-pay their account.
So they don't even try to pay more than the "minimum payment",
even when they intellectually know the interest rate is excessive.

Maybe "unreasonable" is in the eye of the beholder, but there is an spreading impact
to all of us when others can not pay off their debt.

monster 11-20-2010 10:28 PM

yes, I read everything. If you don't, you're part of the problem.

18 pages? folded and refolded? I think they saw you coming. Or someone else is "checking" your mail. You say it was recent -could you scan and post it? I'd love to see that. It sounds like you are being targeted and may have grounds for a law suit. But I would say your experience is far from the norm. Sure, they don't want to you read it, but if you can't, ask for a larger print version, don't just sign it or ignore it. If you can't be bothered, caveat emptor.

Sorry, I have no time for stupid greedy people.

Being Overly Optimistic about your ability to repay is in the lottery players category. You play, you pay. No sympathy from me if you banked on winning a game of chance.


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