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classicman 08-04-2010 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dmg1969 (Post 674458)
OK...you can dispute that quote. Neither of us were there. Here a few more.

Adolf Hitler:

John F. Kennedy:

James Earl Jones:

The Dalai Lama:
JEJ???? One of these things is not like the others ... ;)

classicman 08-04-2010 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dmg1969 (Post 674467)
It IS illegal for someone to come into the country by sneaking across the border to pop out an anchor baby (or to smuggle drugs, find work...whatever). It doesn't matter WHY they're coming here...it does not change the fact that they are in the country illegally.

To sum it up...
1. The 2nd Amendment is about freedom and protecting our democracy.

2. The 14th Amendment needs to be changed to close this giant loophole which allows a flood of illegals into the country. I am all in favor of the children of LEGAL immigrants being citizens because they have gone through the process to do so legally.
I pretty much agree. welcome to hell.

lookout123 08-04-2010 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 674525)
JEJ???? One of these things is not like the others ... ;)
Damn straight. James Earl Jones wasn't a philandering irishman, a failed artist, or a weird little peacenik. He only answered to only one being in the entire freaking galaxy!

Undertoad 08-04-2010 05:34 PM
Plus, he said it in that fine voice, so it bears more weight as a quote.

Spexxvet 08-04-2010 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 674534)
Damn straight. James Earl Jones wasn't a philandering irishman, a failed artist, or a weird little peacenik. He only answered to only one being in the entire freaking galaxy!
Bell Atlantic?

classicman 08-04-2010 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 674534)
He only answered to only one being in the entire freaking galaxy!
Clodfobble's Brain?????????

Clodfobble 08-04-2010 09:49 PM
Yes, my secret's out. I am actually Emperor Palpatine.

Which is why, incidentally, I've always hated the Star Wars series. They painted me in such a negative light!

squirell nutkin 08-04-2010 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 674566)
Yes, my secret's out. I am actually Emperor Palpatine.

Which is why, incidentally, I've always hated the Star Wars series. They painted me in such a negative light!
No woman is a prophet in her own country.

dmg1969 08-05-2010 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 674525)
JEJ???? One of these things is not like the others ... ;)
Yeah, I just threw him in the because he has a cool voice.

Pete Zicato 08-05-2010 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dmg1969 (Post 674482)
I myself am not crazy
Possibly. But you may not be the best judge of that. :cool:

Pete Zicato 08-05-2010 10:48 AM
The constitution is the operating system of the united states. It may need to be tweaked, but you better be damned careful of the results before you apply the changes.

First you'd have to convince me that this is a bug that needs to be fixed.

dmg1969 08-05-2010 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 674669)
Possibly. But you may not be the best judge of that. :cool:
but you would be, right?

dmg1969 08-05-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete Zicato (Post 674670)
The constitution is the operating system of the united states. It may need to be tweaked, but you better be damned careful of the results before you apply the changes.

First you'd have to convince me that this is a bug that needs to be fixed.
I'd say that all of the money we spend on illegals annually and the crimes they commit make it a pretty damn big bug.

Pete Zicato 08-05-2010 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dmg1969 (Post 674687)
but you would be, right?
Noooo. But I bet Wolf could do it.

Anyway, the truth is that I was pulling your leg and it came off in my hand.

Pete Zicato 08-05-2010 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dmg1969 (Post 674689)
I'd say that all of the money we spend on illegals annually and the crimes they commit make it a pretty damn big bug.
How much is that in dollars, and do you have substantiated documentation to back it up?
How does that compare to the general population?

If you can do all that, then make a case that this problem can only be fixed through a change to the constitution - as opposed to just enforcing the laws we already have.

If we stop looking the other way when employers hire undocumented workers and if we stopped providing government support, then I suspect we'd have a lot fewer undocumented workers.


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