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freshnesschronic

07-03-2010 11:48 AM

Please read the article before commenting lookout.

Ibby	07-03-2010 11:52 AM

So, the american cartoon with non-ethnically-featured art (because come on, not a single one of those characters could possibly be ethnically categorized based on appearance) was made into a movie where... none of the actors' races were taken into account when they were cast? EGADS.

i mean, i don't know what's up with that movie that they made about Hachiko (a Japanese story about a loyal dog) starring Richard Gere, and it's dumb as hell that "Prince of Persia" only has one actual Persian in it, but this is even LESS blame-worthy than that. The characters in the cartoon don't look Asian - and the actors in the movie don't look Asian ('cause they aren't). I fail to see the BFD.

lookout123

07-03-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 668511)

Please read the article before commenting lookout.

I did. Anything else? Maybe I should take a racial sensitivity course before looking at your threads?

or you could just learn you can go through your whole life being offended if you don't develop a thicker skin.

jinx	07-03-2010 12:33 PM

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I can only imagine how many disappointed Asian American children will flock to the theaters only to see that their animated heroes are now depicted by White actors who could never truly empathize with their distinct Asian cultural roots.

:right:

freshnesschronic

07-03-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 668518)

So I should just bow down to the man clod? That's my thicker skin? I live in a white world everyday and accept it. So I cant have this opinion? Sorry for bringing this issue to light for you. Just ignore it and it'll go away for you.

lookout123

07-03-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 668523)

I live in a white world everyday and accept it. So I cant have this opinion?

Bullshit. You live in a world full of people. So while you mope around in a "my sociology professor says I'm oppressed" kind of way don't be surprised when you don't get a lot of sympathy. It is bullshit, plain and simple. There is not one opportunity you don't have that is available to the cracker sitting next to you. That was, unfortunately, not always true but the country has and is changing and you need to quit looking for ways to be a victim.

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Sorry for bringing this issue to light for you. Just ignore it and it'll go away for you.

What issue? Some nerds liked a cartoon made in america using some chinese symbols and imagery that was successful enough that a hollywood studio decided to make a movie based on it. They cast the actors they thought, rightly or wrongly, would make the movie most successful. Some nerds who liked the cartoon are upset because... the non-asian cartoon characters were played by non-asian actors? Not much of an issue unless you're just looking for a way to be offended.

Undertoad

07-03-2010 01:18 PM

Hollywood is a fuck. Most movies suck. They are not about real life.

Gravdigr

07-03-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 668421)

...But Gravdigr, that means what you're essentially saying is that America = white. If your statement is valid, then how is it an American studio managed to make Amistad with black actors in the first place?

There were no colors mentioned in my post. Do not paint me with that brush. I am no racist. If I were, I would have bitched about why they needed black actors to make a slave movie. But, I didn't, 'cause I aint.

I've said this before: Hear what I say, not what you think I think.

And now I'm done bitching.:D

Gravdigr

07-03-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 668470)

Meanwhile, the bad guy (second photo) is Indian, the chick is Russian, and the best friend is white.

Dass waisis.

If your statement is valid...America = white.

Clodfobble

07-03-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

This is an Asian cultured film (the setting is the East), so what if illustration didn't make them all chinky-eyed and buck teeth, prominent "Asian" features.

I guess that must describe what they do in all those manga and anime you read with "'Asian' features in the Japanese illustrations?" Or would it maybe have been possible for the animated characters to look Asian without looking sterotypical? The actors match the animations. If you have a problem with the actors, then it's hypocritical not to have a problem with the original animated characters.

Flint

07-03-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic (Post 668457)

this is not correct at all. I watch anime and read manga. There are plenty of "Asian" features in the Japanese illustrations.

And there are PLENTY of obviously western features as well (in many cases the features are predominantly or almost EXCLUSIVELY western). You never noticed that and wondered WTF??? I always did. Apparently I was more concerned about asian heritage then you were. How can that be???

toranokaze

07-04-2010 12:42 AM

The main char. I think is supposed to be Chinese but the other two supporting are supposed to be Eskimos or something like that.

Ibby	07-04-2010 02:16 AM

Having, y'know, been to Tibet (which is where the main character looks like he was stylistically modeled after), I can say that, at least personally, I completely buy the actor who plays the main character, in that role.

lookout123

07-04-2010 11:01 AM

Yeah, but you're a racist.

Gravdigr

07-04-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 668645)

Dude, Gravdigr--what? You made the point that "a movie filmed in Russia, by a Russian studio...will contain predominantly... Russian actors." Your implication is that because the Airbender movie was made in America, we should expect that it will contain American actors, and by extension, Fresh can't complain there are no Asians in it. Your point was clearly that Asians aren't Americans. While I suppose this is true if you're holding strictly to a definition by nationality, the whole point of the thread is "Asian" as a race; i.e., should the studio have cast Asian-Americans?

My point was that contrary to popular complaints, they didn't cast all white actors, they cast a variety of American actors who, while not Asian-American, do in fact look like their animated counterparts, regardless of backstory.

I guess that must describe what they do in all those manga and anime you read with "'Asian' features in the Japanese illustrations?" Or would it maybe have been possible for the animated characters to look Asian without looking sterotypical? The actors match the animations. If you have a problem with the actors, then it's hypocritical not to have a problem with the original animated characters.

You should work at the Pentagon. If you can get that out of what I said, you should be deciphering the most complicated codes on the planet. I can't for the life of me guess how you translated what I said into that.

Please stop calling me a racist. And, please stop twisting what I say into racism. I'm asking you nicely.

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