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well, not from Guardian Frigerator Company. from pronunciation?

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 659197)

Fridge is short American for refrigerator. Or icebox.

Frig is Freya's brother, right?

That's what i thought, a Quick google a few days ago only gave me Frigg as Odin's wife....

Fridge, with a consonant pair indicates a "short" i pronunciation.

Frige, single consonant followed by the silent e would be "long" i. Fr-eye-ge. (to rhyme with fries)

I think the main problem here is that America is full of people who have no clue how to spell. "Frig" is their way of spelling "fridge."

As for the "d" - there seems to be a legitimate spelling rule:

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Why is there a "d" in "fridge", but not in "refrigerator" or "refrigerate"?

What happens is this: when you shorten "refrigerator" to the one-syllable "fridge" you move the "g" from the beginning of a syllable (re-fri-ger...) to the END of one.

In English, g is often "soft" (sounding like "j") at the beginning of a syllable, before e, i or y (germ, "giraffe, gyrate).

But at the END of a syllable/word it doesn't quite work that way. G all by itself at the end is always treated as "hard" --as in rig, bag...

OR when you DO find a "soft g" sound closing a word it is followed by e, AND the preceding vowel is LONG. For example: age, page, etc.

So, by English spelling conventions, "frig" would rhyme with "rig" and "frige" would rhyme with "OBLIGE"

The way English usually solves this problem -- when there is a g at the end of a syllable/word after a SHORT vowel, you write in the "d" --to represent a sound which is already actually part of the 'soft g sound'. There are many examples of this: badge, ridge, ledge, lodge, budge

(If the adding of a D seems odd, notice that j/soft g is actually not one sound, but a combination of two: d + 'zh'; a related sound, only not using the voice is the combination t + sh, which we commonly represent with "ch". 'zh', if it looks odd, is simply the "voiced" version of "sh". It is the sound made by the Z in "azure")

Actually, I believe the REAL problem here stems from the different ORIGINS of two sets of words. The words ending with "-dge" are generally of Old English lineage, whereas the final (-ge) are from Latin, mostly through French. So although "refrigerator" comes from a Latin word, "fridge" accomodates itself to the common pattern used for the 'original English' forms.

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A little overkill (sorry!)

The "rules" above seem to work pretty well when the syllable we're considering is ACCENTED. When it loses the accent, things may seem more confusing.

Thus there are, in fact, -age words in which the "a" is not long. But neither is it an accented short vowel (as in "badge")! Instead, the vowel has ended up in an UN-accented syllable where it is scarcely pronounced at all. Example: garbage, adage, manage, pillage. (Not surprisingly, these are largely words borrowed from Latin, mostly through French into Middle English.)

Then there is "garage". Of course, English speakers can't even agree on how to pronounce it! Dialects differ on the vowel sound, on which syllable to accent, and often on whether the final g is a "j" or "zh" sound . (In this case I prefer the "zh" as befits its French origin.)

Huh. Who knew? :rolleyes:

Everyone spells it Fridge over here.

An ex of mine used to sing a drinking song that had the line "friggin' in the riggin'", which I guess suggested sailors doing it boy style.

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 659209)

Could Frig frig Freya's icebox?

No, she's frigid.

Definitely not overkill on the spelling rules. Love it! If only the placement of accents in Spanish was that comprehensible.

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 659175)

just out of curiosity, what exactly is y'alls' understanding of the word, "frig?" To me, it means, um . . . digital penetration of the vagina.
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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 659190)

huh. that's interesting; I would say it doesn't apply to male anatomy at all

It does when I do it.

:finger: minus the anger, of course. :)

Is that...Why, are you mad?

OR

Why are you mad?

(yes, I know, I know, completely unnecessary and not even particularly intelligent pedantry)

Either way, I'm keen to know the answer. lol

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 659581)

Everyone spells it Fridge over here.

An ex of mine used to sing a drinking song that had the line "friggin' in the riggin'", which I guess suggested sailors doing it boy style.

lessee...if i can remember this one without googling...

friggin in the riggin,
Friggin in the riggin,
Friggin iiiiiiiiiiiin the riggin,
'cause there's frig all else to do.

Now am gonna google it and see...

Bugger no. It's 'fuck all else to do' :p

here's the full lyrics:

FRIGGIN' IN THE RIGGIN'
(Music : The Sex Pistols / Lyrics : Anthrax)

There was a bunch of roadies
And this here is their story
A scurvy bunch of evil twits
Who never say they're sorry

They've traveled cross the nations
Fuckin' paid vacations
We love the schism that they make
They're here for the duration

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The captains name is Rick
Whose "Bozo-do" is slick
He really thinks he knows it all
He's just a Jersey hick

Wanking, cranking, Georgie
He always finds an orgy
He rubs his balls and picks his nose
He's horny Georgie porgie

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The kind of sleaze is Ring
Polaroid's his thing
He whipped it out, her teeth fell out
And now it's in a sling

From LA we have Troy
His fetish is Playboy
A smelly trout, he'll eat it out
Go wash your hands you're M.O.I.

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

John Tempesta is The Joker
The Adams apple choker
Sandra Bernhard is his twin
He'd probably even poke her

The B-boy was John Rooney
He was a fuckin' loony
He does a rap, he thinks he's black
He's soft like Gerry Cooney

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

Yo my name is Bill
Dur, bouncing is my skill, duh,
Smoke ten packs and use my plaque
Duh, with my breath I'll kill

Thursby is the lard ass
The monitors are his task
The sound they made when the band played
Was like Ed Trunk with bad gas

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

The photobug is Ambo
He'll fill up any hairy hole
We'll blindfold you with dental floss
You burnt out fuckin' bimbo

The bottom line is Z
Oh please don't sit on me
Go wipe your hemorrhoid ridden butt
You 1960's hippie!

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do

This here was the story
About our fuckin' roadies
A scurvy bunch of evil twits
Who never say they're sorry
They've traveled cross the nations
Fuckin' paid vacations
We love the schism that they make
They're here for the duration

Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
Friggin' in the riggin'
There was fuck all else to do