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Trilby 05-13-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 656055)

Can't we just have a sum up?

wolf 05-13-2010 01:10 PM

Allah commanded through Mohammed that all of the worlds peoples must be Muslim. If they refuse, they can remain Christian or Jewish, but have to pay an usurious tax, and are not allowed to have houses of worship or come together in groups. And you can kill them. Pagans you can kill outright, but Christians and Jews must be given a chance to come to understand that submitting to Allah is the only choice. That's the idea behind the tax ... and the expectation that within a few generations those folks will join up. Islam takes a long view of success. Oh, and if you are Muslim and decided to try another path, you will be killed.

There's more, of course, but those are the essentials.

lookout123 05-13-2010 01:13 PM

Oh, you're just being a negative nelly because muhammed said it is ok to kill pagan's without giving them the chance to convert.

wolf 05-13-2010 01:20 PM

You bet.

Statement from a grad student instructor of the girl in the video:

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This girl is actually my student; I know her to be an intelligent, moral young woman who believes in peace. I do not support any organization that advocates violence against any specific group, nor do I believe that my student would do so. As a peace loving, Catholic teacher, I’m saddened that this speaker–her elder–manipulated the conversation in this fashion to make her look like someone she isn’t, out of an egotistical desire to prove his own point, rather than engaging in a constructive dialogue. A perfect example of why the peace process is limping foward so painfully
I like Horowitz, and don't think he manipulated the girl into anything ... you stand up to heckle the speaker, you takes your chances.

lookout123 05-13-2010 01:23 PM

I saw that comment. 1) Either not really an instructor, just someone wanting to say 'evil jew' without coming out and saying it or 2) they really need a better class of professor at that school.

The girl wasn't tricked into anything. She was asked whether she supported the idea of rounding all the jews up in Israel for extermination rather than hunting them around the world. She answered in the affirmative.

wolf 05-13-2010 01:38 PM

Her "Come celebrate MSA's Hitler Youth Week" was unprompted.

TheMercenary 05-13-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 656055)

I need to get that, looks like a good read.

classicman 05-13-2010 02:19 PM

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This girl is actually my student; I know her to be an intelligent, moral young woman who believes in peace. I do not support any organization that advocates violence against any specific group, nor do I believe that my student would do so.
Translation = I'm a horrible judge of character...:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 656077)
I like Horowitz, and don't think he manipulated the girl into anything ... you stand up to heckle the speaker, you takes your chances.

Agreed. I liked a lot of the videos I saw last night. Too bad they were mostly on Fox.

Undertoad 05-13-2010 02:19 PM

The Hitler Week comment was because Horowitz had referred to it as that during his talk.

Trilby 05-13-2010 03:58 PM

anyway - I wouldn't hire her.

kids are dumb. I remember an Antioch class having some asshole cop killer (mumia somebody or other) as their gradution speaker - letters poured in telling the kids in that particular graduating class (2000 ? ) not to bother applying for jobs in X or Y county. Stupid kids.

Funny thing, too. Antioch college is no more.

wolf 05-14-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 656088)
I need to get that, looks like a good read.



It is, so is Robert Spencer's Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades.

And it doesn't hurt to read JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch regularly.

TheMercenary 05-15-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 656294)
It is, so is Robert Spencer's Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades.

And it doesn't hurt to read JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch regularly.

I do have JihadWatch bookmarked and read it about once each week, I have not heard about the other one and will check it out. Thanks.


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