But they're Belgians
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Wasn't France occupied by the Nazis then?
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Nazis, what do you expect?
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Men are allowed to keep theirs in their boyfriends' rectums.
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Because if they didn't have IDs, they'd forget their own names.
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Come on. In China, it's so easy to get lost in the crowd that IDs don't matter. And everybody has the same description - eyes: brown, hair: brown
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Who cares?
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No, kinda warm.

Do all those countries have national healthcare, too?

Who cares?

Ah, ok thanks, that link is really helpful.
The part you quoted starts here though (bold mine).

So I guess it depends on these 'rules' that they haven't made yet will be the determining factor. And either they will conform with the 4th amendment or they won't, and it will be struck down.

I totally agree with the rest of what I've quoted here but would rather see the law fail than be unconstitutional.

United States
All citizens are required to have a Social Security card from childhood, and at age 18 all males are required to register with the United States Selective Service.

but you don't have to carry your government docs with you at all times

My point is if people other than those targeted by this law don't speak out against it, pretty soon, it won't be long before we get targeted by similar laws and there won't be anyone around to speak out for us.

But the spirit of this law is not to invade our privacy, or force us to 'carry papers'. It's to make it easier for Illegal Aliens to be caught. Because they are Illegal. They can't be 'persecuted' like the poem above's author.... they don't have any rights in this country if they are here illegally. Logically speaking, not practically of course.

Therein lies the rub. At least they are doing something. That is more than the the past administrations have done. But again, until we control our own borders nothing will really change.

I do. But I do not really support the idea of everyone carrying national ID cards. But I do think all illegals should be registered or deported.

Regardless what happens in this case, that scenario is in the future for everyone in this country. As the world population increases, and with it competition for resources, and the radical Islamic factions get more aggressive, it'll become a necessity.

As soon as they sneak on the American soil, the scumbags have all kinds of constitutional protections.

then again....if we adopted the practice of gruesomely amputating the left hand of any captured illegal alien, and sending them home to tell the tale......

A group of well placed munitions would fix the issue and funnel the immigrants.

Not "us", just people worried a cop might think they seem illegal. If you look real legal, you don't need papers.

We're going to the Grand Canyon in August. Does this new law mean we need to travel with our passports to Arizona? I can't find anything anywhere that says what Arizona considers to be proof of citizenship. We're white and speak English well, but it will be summer time and we might all be a little tan by then.

Do we need our passports? If I don't have my passports, and a cop pulls me over for speeding or something, are they legally able to detain us all for a few days while we dig up proof that we are legal?

Driver's license should do it if you get pulled over for speeding glatt. And unless your kids start screaming about you not being their father/parents they shouldn't arouse suspicion...