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Redux 06-26-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 666620)
I'm certainly not one of them, but here are couple thoughts fwiw . . .


not entirely - -their requests to drill in shallower water were refused. Something about environmental concerns. hmmm

Its Reagan's fault!

He imposed the moratorium that limited new offshore drilling permits. And GHW Bush added his own Executive Order.

Two wacky environmental extremists!

You gotta love the classic Palin/Fox "blame the environmentalists" argument.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 666620)
...You can pile on regulation all you want and make the ill-informed happy, but without enforcement of the regulations already existing adding more serves no benefit except increasing costs.

For the ill-informed......You cant enforce what no longer exists and the near full repeal of Glass Steagall left little in the way of banking/financial services regulation.

TheMercenary 06-26-2010 05:30 PM

Oh, yea, let's drag the new take over by this Administration of the next industry to fall to the socialist agenda of George Soro's!

Griff 06-26-2010 05:32 PM

Hows about you two shitheads take the fucking nonsense somewhere else.

Redux 06-26-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 666650)
Hows about you two shitheads take the fucking nonsense somewhere else.

What nonsense is that?

The fact that the moratorium limiting permits to drill on the OCS goes back to 1981?

Or the fact that the Financial Services Modernization Act effectively repealed Glass Steagall and tore down the wall between commercial banking and investment banking?

TheMercenary 06-26-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 666650)
Hows about you two shitheads take the fucking nonsense somewhere else.

Welll shithead, I see this as normal political banter. Tell us shithead why we should not have this exchange of banter on a political thread. Please shithead, tell us...

Griff 06-26-2010 05:56 PM

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It is apparent you enjoy each other immensely but your banter is destroying discourse.

TheMercenary 06-26-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 666657)
It is apparent you enjoy each other immensely but your banter is destroying discourse.

You forgot to add IMHO... because that is all it is.

Redux 06-26-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 666659)
You forgot to add IMHO... because that is all it is.

And Griff, you neglected to answer my question....what nonsense is that?

jinx 06-26-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff (Post 666650)
Hows about you two shitheads take the fucking nonsense somewhere else.

Sucks man. I was interested...

Redux 06-26-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 666676)
Sucks man. I was interested...

What a load of crap.

Classicman makes a comment:
...their requests to drill in shallower water were refused. Something about environmental concerns. hmmm
And I point out that it goes back to Reagan's moratorium.

along with MHO that the blame the environmentalist game is a load of crap as well.

jinx 06-26-2010 07:23 PM

Who fucking cares?! Not everyone plays team politics, some actually want to DISCUSS THE ISSUES. It was Reagan that offered up the last round of amnesty for illegal aliens - doesn't stop you from carping that the conservatives are all opposed to it.

Redux 06-26-2010 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx (Post 666687)
Who fucking cares?! Not everyone plays team politics, some actually want to DISCUSS THE ISSUES. It was Reagan that offered up the last round of amnesty for illegal aliens - doesn't stop you from carping that the conservatives are all opposed to it.

Please dont put words in my mouth or crap that you want to DISCUSS the ISSUES and I (we) dont.

IMHO, both Merc and I have toned down the rhetoric.

If you dont like what/how I (or we) post......ignore it.

xoxoxoBruce 06-26-2010 07:39 PM

Close to shore drilling has been limited for awhile, probably 'not in my back yard' and 'out of sight, out of mind' thinking. Whereas out in deep water, it couldn't possibly mess up the shore areas, could it?:rolleyes:

TheMercenary 06-26-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 666690)
Please dont put words in my mouth or crap that you want to DISCUSS the ISSUES and I (we) dont.

IMHO, both Merc and I have toned down the rhetoric.

If you dont like what/how I (or we) post......ignore it.

Peace.

classicman 06-26-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 666691)
Close to shore drilling has been limited for awhile, probably 'not in my back yard' and 'out of sight, out of mind' thinking. Whereas out in deep water, it couldn't possibly mess up the shore areas, could it?:rolleyes:

Yep for those reasons as well. It originally started back in 1982, when the Democratically led Congress restricted more and more areas through appropriations.
Through this annual process, Congress chose to deny the funding necessary to conduct leasing of new offshore areas to oil companies. The restrictions were renewed annually. This went on until recently through both R & D led congresses until the price for oil skyrocketed.

There have been several legislative efforts to eliminate them over the last couple years by the R's, but none none have been successful. They have been rebuked by the environmentally conscious D's and their majority in the house.


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