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Spexxvet 04-14-2010 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 648713)
How did you come to that conclusion?
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 648727)
I certainly respect your opinion. But that is the new mantra of the left-wing nuts, anyone who disagrees with Obama is now called a racist. I think that is a huge mistake and is only stated to stifle anyone who disagrees with his policies.
How else would you explain that some people are closed-minded when it comes to Obama's citizenship, which has been resolved enough times to satisfy a moron, but closed minded in the opposite way when it came to McCain's citizenship?

TheMercenary 04-14-2010 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 648736)
It's like they can't believe that this person of mixed heritage represents the good ol USof A to the world.
There is no evidence to support that notion.

TheMercenary 04-14-2010 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 648739)
How else would you explain that some people are closed-minded when it comes to Obama's citizenship, which has been resolved enough times to satisfy a moron, but closed minded in the opposite way when it came to McCain's citizenship?
Because they are morons, not because they are racist. There is no evidence to support that.

Cloud 04-14-2010 04:40 PM
Maybe not, but this is the feeling I get from their rhetoric. I'll have to think on this some more, I guess.

Spexxvet 04-14-2010 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 648742)
Because they are morons, not because they are racist. There is no evidence to support that.
There's as much evidence that they're racists as there is that they're morons.

Cloud 04-14-2010 04:54 PM
okay; maybe they're just very persistent garden-variety nutcases

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birther

Happy Monkey 04-14-2010 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 648727)
I certainly respect your opinion. But that is the new mantra of the left-wing nuts, anyone who disagrees with Obama is now called a racist. I think that is a huge mistake and is only stated to stifle anyone who disagrees with his policies.
Birtherism doesn't involve disagreeing with Obama or his policies. It is the disbelief that the first black PotUS is legitimate.

He's not the first PotUS with an immigrant parent.

Cloud 04-14-2010 05:14 PM
and not the first president to be investigated for not being a natural born citizen either, apparently.

Maybe it's just so incomprehensible to me, that I label these people with the worst thing I can think of. That's probably a mistake on my part.

TheMercenary 04-14-2010 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 648759)
Birtherism doesn't involve disagreeing with Obama or his policies. It is the disbelief that the first black PotUS is legitimate.

He's not the first PotUS with an immigrant parent.
It is not about racism. The lines are blurred by those who wish to discredit anyone who disagrees with Obama. It is false to make it a race issue.

TheMercenary 04-14-2010 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 648748)
There's as much evidence that they're racists as there is that they're morons.
Prove it.

Happy Monkey 04-14-2010 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 648766)
It is not about racism. The lines are blurred by those who wish to discredit anyone who disagrees with Obama. It is false to make it a race issue.
Like I said, birtherism isn't about disagreeing with Obama. It is about claiming that he's not a legitimate president, based solely on the fact that his father was African.

TheMercenary 04-14-2010 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 648770)
Like I said, birtherism isn't about disagreeing with Obama. It is about claiming that he's not a legitimate president, based solely on the fact that his father was African.
I don't believe that involves a feeling of racism, that was my only point. I think if his father was from Sweden these people would be making the same claim, regardless of his color. I personally am proud that we have elected a true African American as President. I think it was a huge statement as to who far we have come as a nation. Even if I don't agree with 75% of his policy.

Cloud 04-14-2010 05:40 PM
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I think if his father was from Sweden these people would be making the same claim, regardless of his color.
I do not. Maybe I don't have any proof, but I still feel that way. Is that a blonde moment? Dunno, but feel free to blame that, if you want.

Spexxvet 04-14-2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 648742)
Because they are morons, not because they are racist. There is no evidence to support that.
Prove it.:zzz:

TheMercenary 04-14-2010 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 648774)
Prove it.:zzz:
I never made the claim that they were racist. You support it. The burden is on you. But I know you can't.... :lol:


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