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Shawnee123 03-14-2010 10:31 AM

And now, you're BRILLIANT! :)

Sundae 03-15-2010 01:16 PM

I read 1984 when I was 12. My sister was 14 and studying it at school. She came home and said, "We're reading this really amazing book..." and my sister was never an enthusiastic reader. So I pinched her copy one weekend and couldn't put it down. I simply couldn't relate to some of it, but "You are the dead" gave me a physical fear reaction.

The one I feel I read far too young was The Lord of the Flies. I've said before that it shocked me deeply. A kind of internal shudder akin to an ice cube down the back of the neck. Like some people's first (too-early) experience of pron. The horror of that book stayed with me for years.

Pete Zicato 03-15-2010 02:35 PM

Mrs. Z teaches it in her 7th grade lit. class.

Pie 03-15-2010 04:05 PM

Start her with: 1984, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World.

Don't let her read William Burroughs' The Naked Lunch when she's 14, please. Wait till she's... say, 50.

However, I recommend William Gibson's Neuromancer to anyone with a pulse. And Snowcrash by Neal Stephenson. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Dick. The Lathe of Heaven, Ursula Le Guin. The Diamond Age, also Stephenson.

monster 03-15-2010 11:55 PM

She HATES Ursula Le Guin after Wrinkle. Brave New World I think is a bit meh if you haven't experienced workplace type politics. Have you read Hunger Games, Pie? I'd be interested to hear your take on it. (Yes, it's a teen book)

Crimson Ghost 03-16-2010 12:08 AM

I read '1984' in 1984 for a book report.
If memory serves, I got an A.
Something about a 13 year old submitting book reports on '1984', 'Clockwork Orange', and 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' REALLY unnerved the teacher.



DanaC 03-16-2010 06:05 AM

Clockwork Orange was another book that our English teacher turned us onto. He was a brilliant English teacher. He gave us really cool stuff to read outside of the syllabus. Catch 22 was one he got me into as well. I still remember the passage he used with us for a language exercise; it was the bit in the plane when Yossarian realises the other guy's been hit by shrapnel, and his guts are hanging out.

Trilby 03-16-2010 07:09 AM

never read 1984 OR Animal Farm OR Clockwork Orange.

Did read Naked Lunch and Fear of Flying as a tween. Liked Erica Jong - felt Burroughs was a tard but just prolly coz I couldn't figure out wtf was going on.

Bart and Milhouse come out of a theatre with the marquis NAKED LUNCH. Bart says, "I can think of two things wrong with that title."

Pie 03-16-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 641209)
She HATES Ursula Le Guin after Wrinkle. Brave New World I think is a bit meh if you haven't experienced workplace type politics. Have you read Hunger Games, Pie? I'd be interested to hear your take on it. (Yes, it's a teen book)

Wrong author -- Madeleine L'Engle wrote A Wrinkle in Time. Ursula K. Le Guin wrote the Earthsea series (highly recommended).

I found the religious themes of L'Engle's works to be utterly heavy-handed. Le Guin, on the other hand, explicitly turns Christian themes on their heads.
Quote:

This is a writer who – in the 1960's, decades before Harry Potter and all that – simply seized the patriarchal-Christian fantasy tradition laid down by Lewis and Tolkien by the scruff of its neck and reimagined it from a feminist, post-Judaeo-Christian point of view.
Le Guin rocks.

No, I haven't read Hunger Games. I will look it up!

monster 03-16-2010 10:22 AM

Gawd I must've been tired :lol: We read wrinkle and earthsea back to back as bedtime stories. That's my defence and I'm sticking to it. I'm not a huge fan either. Hebe was kind of ambivalent about Earthsea, but it was a while ago -it may be time for a revisit.

Pie 03-16-2010 10:32 AM

The fourth book in the Earthsea series (Tehanu) is much more feminist and a little less D&D-ish.

jinx 03-16-2010 10:36 AM

The boy, 11, read Animal Farm and Lord of the Flies this year. I don't know if I would even recommend 1984 to him... I was pretty meh about it myself.

wolf 03-16-2010 11:22 AM

I love 1984, read it in early high school, IIRC, although I have memories of seeing the original black and white movie version prior to that. The events in room 101 are a bit heavy for a preteen or tween, but contextually a lot better than that Twilight crap, so I'd say let the kid loose on it, and be available for any questions.

toranokaze 03-24-2010 10:25 AM

1984, Brave New World. Is the day to day life. We are kept we are monitored, I see no hope.

Urbane Guerrilla 03-25-2010 10:42 PM

I gave Earthsea a try recently. Got through two and a half of the books before losing interest. Nothing seems to happen in those tales, and they move at the pace of a Swedish film. Frankly, give me LotR for satisfaction of the mature reader -- and HP, all seven books, for the less mature. Also for the slightly better love scenes.

1984 and Lord of the Flies were teenage fare for me. Fear Of Flying was not an erotic novel. It was a neurotic novel. For erotic, give me Phil Foglio any day.


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