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Pico and ME 01-21-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 628969)
WE corporations, and the people we own, of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union....

:D

xoxoxoBruce 01-21-2010 06:37 PM

Gotta get rid of all that red & white, non-revenue producing, space.

Pie 01-21-2010 07:47 PM

Nah, that's the military-industrial complex and BigPharma.

squirell nutkin 01-21-2010 07:49 PM

WILL reshape politics? What, did you write this thread 200 years ago and just now got around to hitting "Post Quick Reply"?

For as long as I've been alive I've been aware we've been living in a Corpocracy.

richlevy 01-21-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 628921)
I have long felt that if 'corporations' really are 'legal persons' they should be treated as the rest of us

I have long felt that if corporations really are legal persons they should be eligible for lethal injection in Texas.

glatt 01-22-2010 09:20 AM

Does this new ruling mean that multinational corporations can now pump money into the US elections by using their US branch? Are we going to have Chinese corporations donating money to US candidates by using dummy US subsidiaries?

TheMercenary 01-22-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 628857)
[What do you think?

I don't like it but I see how they made their arguement. I guess the only thing to do is count on the Congress to redefine the law and start over.

I would like to see all elected officials be limited to public funds only at a set minimum amount and the same limits on public corps and special interest groups.

TheMercenary 01-22-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 629115)
Does this new ruling mean that multinational corporations can now pump money into the US elections by using their US branch? Are we going to have Chinese corporations donating money to US candidates by using dummy US subsidiaries?

Very good question. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Happy Monkey 01-22-2010 10:13 AM

Donation limits to candidates are still in place.

But under this formulation, if corporations are people, and money is speech, any corporation, foreign or domestic, can now run their own ads for or against candidates. They'll only need dummy corporations if they want to be somewhat anonymous.

classicman 01-22-2010 11:18 AM

Are the limits for a single corp based on it being one corp or a corp "representing" x number of people?

The international issue is a biggie!

Happy Monkey 01-22-2010 11:26 AM

Any limits to donating directly to candidates (I don't know specifics on this, it may not even be legal at all) would be per-corporation.

But there will be no limit to the corporation making its own ad campaign, completely separately (wink wink nudge nudge) from the candidate's campaign.

classicman 01-22-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 629180)
But there will be no limit to the corporation making its own ad campaign, completely separately (wink wink nudge nudge) from the candidate's campaign.

Yep. This is ridiculous. I still cannot gather the mentality or logic behind this decision. To me its akin to separation of church and state.

I just don't see how this really has anything to do with the First Amendment. Refresh my memory, when did corporations become people again?

Happy Monkey 01-22-2010 11:43 AM

1886

classicman 01-22-2010 11:47 AM

Thanks HM - that was more of a rhetorical statement ;)

toranokaze 01-22-2010 01:25 PM

The largest of the large corporations have had far too much power and influence of the government for the longest time and now with this ruling not only are corporations more people than people they truly can do what ever they want, and government only services a figurehead to the largest corporations now.


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