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xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 11:55 AM

Both of them? I thought you were more partial to putting the bone in? :cool:

Sundae 11-10-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 606717)
Dennis is allergic to chicken...so he eats Hillshire Farms deli selects extra thin honey ham.

I know you're a responsible cat owner - but check the salt content in what you're feeding him. In general meat is only called "ham" if it's salt cured - which is too much salty for little cat bodies (I admit I use it as a treat when the 'rents have it in.)
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Originally Posted by limey (Post 606968)
has Diz still got his beebles?

I buy Diz beebles every week. The only thing he's short on is bollocks ;)

Sheldonrs 11-10-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 607245)
Both of them? I thought you were more partial to putting the bone in? :cool:

But I can't put it in without pulling it out first.

jinx 11-10-2009 12:49 PM

It's not ideal... and he drinks a ton of water because of it, but he lost 2lbs in the transition from a mostly chicken diet. That's scary in an 8lb cat... and he's only gained 1/2 of it back.
I'll try other stuff again soon now that he's actually eating the kibble (at $36 a bag :eek:), but I couldn't have him not eating anything.

Sundae 11-10-2009 12:54 PM

Like I said - I know you're responsible.
I was just shocked when food traffic lights came in here and I realised how damned salty cured meats were (usually at a red for humans, let alone cats).

But I had the same issue with Dyl - of sainted memory - in that he'd pass up any dished food to Diz and only eat from my hand. And what did he like best? High salt processed meat. What do you do? Starve them?

xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 12:59 PM

That ham is 97% fat free. Maybe a cheaper ham would have more fat, to help weight gain?

Sundae 11-10-2009 01:07 PM

Never had an issue with the fat content of processed meats - they're great in moderation if you (human) is on a diet. They're just laden with salt - because that's what curing is - the process of preserving flesh in salt.

Trouble is, when animals of a much smaller mass ingest it, the levels of salt per BMI are so much higher. And it's not part of their natural diet. It isn't healthy.

I'm not criticizing Jinx - I asked her a question to see if she was aware of the issue and she is.

jinx 11-10-2009 01:15 PM

Maybe Bruce, I just bought that kind because the boy also likes it, for omlettes and stuff. I should look and see what else is there though. Dennis went from refusing to try anything, (apparently hates all forms of seafood except tuna and the mercury in that freaked me out) to gobbling up that ham so I just went with it...

It definitely has a lot of salt SG, 690mgs in 2oz. Would be a lot easier if he'd just eat goddamn cat food.

xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 01:17 PM

Maybe you could go out on the farms and catch him some mice. You know, in your spare time. :lol2:

Sundae 11-10-2009 01:42 PM

Over here you can get frozen packs of meat for animal consumption. Includes bonemeal, which is the next best thing for cats that won't eat actual bones (or if you fear them yourself). Sold in pet supermarkets. Mostly for working dogs but just check the labels.

I know a meat & bones diet does not appeal to every cat owner, all I can say is Diz is doing well on it. He's gaining weight here because he sneaks Mia's food (full fat cat beebles avilable 24-7). But before that he was the sleekest and healthiest cat I've ever seen.

Oh and Bruce - don't tempt me :) You can buy live mice for some reptiles. If I thought it would benefit the Diz cat (and I didn't live witrh my Mum!) I would be so tempted to give him a "live" diet!

FTR - as if to prove that a cat needs to hunt, Diz has just come in with a soiled mush. I know what this means. I left the back door ajar so I could hear when the tumble drier had finished (Grandad's shirts). He's been out after worms again. Diz, not Grandad. Filthy beggar.

xoxoxoBruce 11-10-2009 01:46 PM

Buying them is poor sportsmanship, ya gotta catch free range mice... bare handed. ;)

Sundae 11-10-2009 01:56 PM

Just to update - I went downstairs to find a live wriggling worm (avec soil) in my my Mum's nice beige sofa.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Came here before washing the dirt (from the clean up) from under my nails.
Off for a scrub at such high temps it might remove my fingerprints. Bad Diz.

limey 11-10-2009 04:02 PM

:eek:
Best Beloved and I are regularly wakened in the night by the sound of "CRUNCH CRUNCH" as the cats eat their warm, caught-on-the-hoof snacks on the bedroom floor in the middle of the night ...

Cicero 11-10-2009 05:48 PM

We aren't going to talk about wings again are we? MMMMMMMMMM............Wings!

monster 11-10-2009 07:06 PM

Did i ever tell you about the wedding dress incident? Black taffeta ....few days before, woke up to black shreds all over bedroom floor... never so relieved to step in blackbird carcus.....


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