Well, where I live, it's like this . . .

ARE there any people actually living in the city? Well, except for scary "projects" type people? Nah, probably not. The city is where people go to work, then they come back to the 'burbs at six or so.

Am I right, Bri?

Same goes for Dayton and Cincinnati, with a few exceptions. I know a little more about Cincy - grew up in a Cincy 'burb. Cincy is divided up into many little towns that surround it and though they're "city" they are also separate cities - I think they are actually independent satellite cities, though they're a ten-minute bus ride from Fountain Square. If you live "downtown" you're either really rich and can afford a riverview condo, or you're dirt poor. Very little in between.

Do the city dwellers - those who live in nearby "cities" - think less of suburban dwellers? Of course. In the Cincy area, every little neighborhood thinks less of every other little neighborhood. Especially east vs. west.

Adelaide. 144 suburbs, in search of a city.

Here, all the city dwellars are trying to become surburban dwellars.

They have recently figured out that you get sooo much more house for your dollars, the schools are less feral, and the community is generally a whole lot nicer.

Problem is, as the city spreads out, us surburban lovers have to move further and further out.

I'm assuming there is a lot of that here in parts of Minneapolis since we have a very large douchy liberal elitist population but I try to stay away from them so I don't hear much of it personally.

Although, even though I hate the "elitist city-dweller" stereotype, I do not believe the suburban lifestyle is sustainable and it will have to change in the next few decades or cease to exist. I will not judge anyone initially or think of them of lesser Minneapolisians (?) from being from the suburbs but I do find many to be complete idiots (that is also true in the city to be fair).

I would never say I or anyone I know is having a war against the suburbs but some of us do find that the suburban lifestyle will create big problems in the future.

Here we have an Indians versus cowboys war. It worked on the Saturday afternoon matinee and it works for us (we're easily amused here in the middle of nowhere). Indians are lazy drunks. Cowboys only last 8 seconds. Last Sunday a neighbor warned me about an Indian who hangs out in our neighborhood. Dude never bothered me, but she was frothing at the mouth - at Church no less. Onward Christian soldiers. I've spent time with Indians who don't like white people at all. Can't trust white people because they'll steal anything that's not tied down. :headshake

douchy liberal elitest population? What are those--the women?

Actually, I doubt most liberal elitests douche. Only uneducated people douche, 'cause it's bad for you.

Yeah, 'cause we educated people never do anything that's bad for us.

sure we do. but we know better.

I live more like 3 miles from Phila Int Airport. IMHO, You're not suburban, you're rural. To me, the war is between urban/suburban and rural.

what about semen depository liberal elitists?

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I thought they came from Chicago!

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Well I can use "tool" if you prefer but I personally enjoy the use of excessive adjectives. And I usually reserve "tool" for frat boys and wannabe frat boys anyways.

It already has in many cities. I say I live in the suburbs, but I doubt it would conform to what some people in other large cities would consider the suburbs. I have a neighborhood grocery store--not in walking distance, but less than 2 miles--and both office complexes and major retail centers are less than 5 miles in multiple directions. My husband does technically commute in the general direction of downtown, but his job is still only halfway between us and it, and there are tons of tech companies much closer. Anyway, we basically never have cause to drive into the city proper. So I guess we might classify more as urban sprawl, I don't know.

How about for sporting events, concerts, the opera, quality dining, etc.?

Damn, girl, I'd have loved to read the full post.