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Shawnee123 08-04-2009 05:03 PM

Hell, I have a problem with that fucking song about the hillbitch who tears the shit out of her boyfriend's cars cause he's all up in the bar getting drunk with some other chick.

Shel is right: if men had done that to a woman can you freaking imagine?

You say goodbye, you leave, or make him leave...and you get on with your life wiser and better.

There's absolutely no sense in what they did...and it makes me sick that there still exists a double standard that women can smack men around or do whatever they want because we're just weak l'il ole things who done been scorned. I see this kind of behavior as being completely counter-productive to fighting domestic violence.

Aliantha 08-04-2009 05:06 PM

OK, so smacking him around wasn't nice, but why should he get off scott free? They could have been more imaginative and then it would have been really entertaining.

Pie 08-04-2009 08:46 PM

FWIW I was laughing at the ridiculous $200 bail. Yeah, these women should get written up as sex offenders. Along with prison time (if convicted).

Alluvial 08-04-2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 586000)
Geez! Won spellin errur ant Eyem marced four lyfe!!!

Calm down. I was just playin' with ya. :cool:

Cloud 08-04-2009 09:39 PM

Auntie Em? Surrender Dorothy!

toranokaze 08-04-2009 09:46 PM

It is appalling that very real violence, with the headline calling it torture, is laughed off as if this was a harmless practical joke.And a $200 bail is very low in fact the bail would have been higher if they did something to his car.

Cloud 08-04-2009 11:16 PM

A bunch of my friends think it's funny. It's really pissing me off. I understand the impulse to laugh at other people's misery, but we are further evolved than chimps.

toranokaze 08-04-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 586093)
...but we are further evolved than chimps.

That is arguable.

Cloud 08-04-2009 11:38 PM

Well, some of us are, at least.

I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry.

toranokaze 08-04-2009 11:46 PM

I see no reason to apologize you have understandable outrage.

xoxoxoBruce 08-04-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 586098)

I'm blowing this all out of proportion.

Maybe in your head/heart, but what you've written here is right. :thumb:

Shawnee123 08-05-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 586098)
Well, some of us are, at least.

I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry.

No, you're not. If we don't find this behavior deplorable then how can we turn the tables when the sexes are exchanged?

I don't care if I look like Ms Blow Out of Proportion to anyone: it is not right and it is not funny and I don't find it charming when women behave like stupid classless savages any more than I find it charming when men do, which is to say: it turns my stomach, and it's a dangerous precedent.

Cloud 08-05-2009 12:21 PM

I went to bed last night still thinking about this--about why it bothered me so much. I compared this to the burning bed scenario, which I wasn't upset about at all. Why was this different? I realized that-- I really don't care about the guy--he's a jerk. Nor do I care about the women--they're stupid. I care more about people thinking it's funny. I understand why people laugh at such things--I just don't like it.

I just have a "Thing" about people being mean, petty, and cruel. Of course, I don't have as much of a problem with being shallow, selfish, and lazy.;)

And my last word on the subject-- if you didn't recognize the chimp reference, here's my foundation: Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. (I've often said I read too much Heinlein at an impressionable age).

Quote:

Of course it wasn't funny-it was tragic. That's why I had to laugh. I looked at a cageful of monkeys and suddenly I saw all the mean and cruel and utterly unexplainable things I've seen and heard and read about in the time I've been with my own people and suddenly it hurt so much I found myself laughing."

"But- Mike dear, laughing is something you do when something is nice - . . not when it's horrid."

"Is it? Think back to Las Vegas- When all you pretty girls came out on the stage, did people laugh?"

"Well ... no."

"But you girls were the nicest part of the show. I grok now, that if they had laughed, you would have been hurt. No, they laughed when a comic tripped over his feet and fell down ...or something else that is not a goodness."

Here's an article on the whole thing--about The Nature of Laughter:

http://ockhamsrazor.joeuser.com/article/161492

Shawnee123 08-05-2009 12:37 PM

I think the difference between this event and those depicted in The Burning Bed (and this is a BIG difference) is the former is a cheater, the latter was an extremely abusive person who had continually beaten and hurt that woman until she broke. NOT the same thing AT all.

Fuck a bunch of cheaters. Leave his dumbass and find you a real man. A man who beats a woman should be dealt with within the law, but if I were on a jury I wouldn't vote to convict a woman in such an extreme situation as the one depicted in The Burning Bed.

OnyxCougar 08-07-2009 02:03 PM

I call bullshit, Shawnee.

Domestic violence is not an excuse to burn someone alive.

or "hurt them back" in any way, shape, or form.

If violence is against the law, then revenge for that violence using violence is ALSO against the law.

You can't say one sort of violence is ok (or justified) and another isn't.

Well, I guess you can, but you'd have a double standard.


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