Obama's speech was filled with rhetoric he cannont achive. He knows it, and people who heard it know it.

Show us the jobs dude or STFU.

I will be sure to link you to this post in 6 months. If we are on track and things have turned around and all these people are working I will take you to dinner. :D

Go ahead. If only you had done that with republican pricks who have been in power for years. But, you didn't. You never did. All you have ever done is criticize "demoncrats." And I have known you for a pretty long time Merc.

At least Obama is trying to take us in another direction, one that is not controlled by corporate greed and questionable ethics.

I am pretty sure people were working then.

Oh, and the deficit was less than half of what it is now.

WTF are you TALKING about? This crisis happened BEFORE Obama was elected. And when your hero bush took office, the budget was balanced and there was a surplus. Who ruined that? Where were the republicans when bush was destroying the deficit? Where was their outrage then? The ONLY reason why Obama is doing this, is because he HAS TO, because of fucking republican policy of tax cuts for rich people, while engaging in costly wars and no bid contracts, and STUPID, wasteful legislation.

Stop drinking the acid. Mr. Natural ain't going to change the facts. No matter how much you want to spin it. This has very little to do with Bush. Your thinking would be akin to saying I have a shit load of credit card bills, maybe I should increase my limit and get more cards to pay off the ones I have and get more shit since I am spending money. This is the largest spending bill in history. My kids will be paying for your bailout.

:rolleyes: yea, the recession (coming possible depression) is ALL Obama's fault. good grief. Talk about drinking the koolaid...

Ok, show me how Bush caused the housing bubble, lending crisis, bad loans, greedy bankers and lenders to make bad loans, stupid ass poor people that thought they could flip a house and bought more than they could ever afford, over credited, over bought and lost or about to lose every thing they have.

I'm in. GO!

Not what I said.

Only that the Demoncrats own the "economic spending package" if it fails and crashes our economy.

Your economy is going to crash either way Merc. Obama can only do so much to lessen the pain when it all comes down to it...the same with most other governments around the world.

This is almost chat hint hint

I am not sure about that. I at least hope not. I hope everyone digs in equally in their own little sphere and makes things right for themselves and then maybe the pain will not be so bad. I don't have high hopes for the world doing anything but blaming the US for most of the problems. it is just the nature of our times.

The US happens to have the driving economy so of course other nations are going to be affected by what happens in the US. As far as blame goes, I don't know about that.

I think it's just a cycle. There'll be another boom before too long.

Yeh an atomic one from Iran... :eyebrow:

lol...it might come from north korea if you're lucky. ;)

If I had my way we would cut off all financial aid to anyone not attached to our physical border for a period of 1 to 5 years until we get our own house in order. Everyone else can fend for themselves.