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TGRR 02-18-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 536098)
2 deaths from measels?

how many less from SIDS?

Do you have a peer-reviewed study showing a link between MMR vaccinations and SIDS?

lumberjim 02-18-2009 09:41 PM

nope.

Pie 02-18-2009 09:53 PM

FUD. That's all he has.

TGRR 02-18-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 536125)
nope.

I'm sure there's a point in there somewhere. I just appear to be too dense to appreciate it.

Enlighten me?

classicman 02-19-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 536125)
nope.


tw 02-19-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beestie (Post 536109)
I'm going to start calling you "the six degrees of WMDs."

Whenever a discussion is about people who don't think logically - who want to be scammed - then no better example is 'Saddam had WMDs'. The ideal example of people who just *know* despite facts.

An MMR myth could not happen to anyone who learned from the 'Saddam had WMD' lie. A lie always cited when people believe their emotions rather than reality. No better example of how many will deny facts to entertain emotional bias.

Cicero 02-19-2009 02:12 PM

I will take full responsibility for any of the myths I choose to beleve in.

classicman 02-19-2009 02:16 PM

bites tongue - move along

Sundae 02-19-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 536371)
I will take full responsibility for any of the myths I choose to beleve in.

Like the American Government blew up the Twin Towers?

Aliantha 02-19-2009 04:33 PM

There was an article on the news last night about a town just north of Brisbane where I live which has a less than 66% immunisation rate and is soon to be considered dangerous for tourists (which is where the town makes its money from) because there's likely to be outbreaks of measles and whooping cough, both of which are making a comeback thanks to generally lower levels of immunisation in the community.

This is a dangerous game people are playing with their childrens lives.

ETA: Damn liberal pinko hippies!

Flint 02-19-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 535807)
I have friends who have bought into this wholesale.

Yeah, you're right in the middle of cuckoo-land. Your region is sending out emissaries to bamboozle the masses with this hogwash.

smoothmoniker 02-19-2009 05:13 PM

If you would quit watching their movies and TV shows and buying their albums, these wackjobs wouldn't have quite such a far reach.

Do it, do it for the children. Quit sending your entertainment dollars to LA. Send them directly to me instead, and I promise to entertain you.

Aliantha 02-19-2009 05:16 PM

I wonder if the people who choose not to immunise their children realise how much infant mortality has decreased since immunisation became mainstream.

Sorry, but this issue really bothers me because if diseases like measles and whooping cough, not to mention polio and hepatitis become 'ordinary' illnesses again, where does that leave the babies who are only just begining their immunisation schedule? The very young and the very old are always most susceptible to these diseases and if they're more prevalent in society, then who is going to start popping off because of them?

If you choose not to immunise your child, you're not only being irresponsible as a parent, you're being socially irresponsible also.

Flame away.

Clodfobble 02-19-2009 05:28 PM

A friend of mine's baby got whooping cough a week before the scheduled immunization was to occur. She spent over a week in the hospital on a feeding tube. It is serious shit.

TheMercenary 02-19-2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 536472)
I wonder if the people who choose not to immunise their children realise how much infant mortality has decreased since immunisation became mainstream.

Sorry, but this issue really bothers me because if diseases like measles and whooping cough, not to mention polio and hepatitis become 'ordinary' illnesses again, where does that leave the babies who are only just begining their immunisation schedule? The very young and the very old are always most susceptible to these diseases and if they're more prevalent in society, then who is going to start popping off because of them?

If you choose not to immunise your child, you're not only being irresponsible as a parent, you're being socially irresponsible also.

Flame away.

What she said. If it is such a bad thing I think we need to stop trying to immunize all those Africans./sarc


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