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Urbane Guerrilla 01-24-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf (Post 525994)
Don't forget, Pi day is March 14.

At 16:00?

Urbane Guerrilla 01-24-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 525943)
It would be interesting to see you define 'common run'. IMO, Slate, Salon and the New Republic match up well with National Review (I don't know Commentary) and I assume are 'responsible' examples under your definition. As for 'common run', the most watched/read conservatives of late are Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. I am having a hard time finding liberal examples who are both as popular and as damaging to the national psyche.

Not the national psyche, Rich -- the leftist psyche, which frankly requires severe damaging if you want a Republic. If you want a tyranny, stick with the Left. Personally, I'm not having any.


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One of the biggest losers under the Bush Era were conservative intellectuals, who seem to have become disenfranchised under the Republican 'embrace stupidity' anti-'elitist' mantra. The only thing that Bush and Buckley had in common were the first two letters of their last names.
Such a "loss" would have been shown in an absence of conservative intellectual effort -- that absence is not in evidence. They're still cranking out the smart stuff, and if anything at a greater pace. What's more, so many of them are Republicans that you just can't show that Republican = intellectually impoverished. This was a clue to me that the left-of-center just ain't got it. Dinesh D'Souza remarked that the bright conservatives don't go into politics as much as their opposite numbers, but instead into business. What I see here is that richlevy is being suckered. Doesn't have to be that way. You may refuse to believe that I'm living proof -- but tell me, from what you've seen is that likely to stop me?

Urbane Guerrilla 01-24-2009 10:48 PM

Common run: we could note Harper's and Z. Great founts of unwisdom. I suppose I could go through the labor of reading through them for sentence by sentence quotes -- do you think it would change my opinion?

xoxoxoBruce 01-25-2009 01:25 AM

Hell no. :headshake

richlevy 01-25-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 526150)
do you think it would change my opinion?

Not really. Frankly, if you had lived a few thousand years earlier, you would probably have said something like "Nice rocks Moses, but the golden calf is easier to polish and my neighbors wife is pretty damn hot.'

Shawnee123 01-25-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 526144)
Since when do you have a real reason -- not the dubious stuff that has apparently satisfied you until now -- to respond so? Can any one person be that unenlightened? Quite beyond belief, chum. Leftists remain leftists only through stubbornly maintained ignorance, while the conservatives stride from enlightenment to enlightenment. No doubts from you or, say, Bruce can change this progress. You might start to wonder what you're missing.:headshake


Why yes. Yes one can. Apparently.

richlevy 01-25-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 526218)
Why yes. Yes one can. Apparently.

Whenever UG goes really over-the-top, I have another one of my "On the Internet noone knows you're a dog" conspiracy theories that UG is an alter-ego of an existing Cellarite. That maybe s/he was going to use "Urbanana Gorilla" but decided that doing that would reveal the joke.

I do not believe that a real human being could consistently self-parody the way UG has on a primary account, even anonymously.

Maybe Brianna banned herself because she was unable to continue maintaining two Cellar accounts.;)

capnhowdy 01-25-2009 11:25 AM

..nah.. no way. Claudette is a live and let live person. I don't think she would be obsessed with converting others to her beliefs.

Shawnee123 01-25-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 526249)
Whenever UG goes really over-the-top, I have another one of my "On the Internet noone knows you're a dog" conspiracy theories that UG is an alter-ego of an existing Cellarite. That maybe s/he was going to use "Urbanana Gorilla" but decided that doing that would reveal the joke.

I do not believe that a real human being could consistently self-parody the way UG has on a primary account, even anonymously.

Maybe Brianna banned herself because she was unable to continue maintaining two Cellar accounts.;)

Except for the Bri part, that is actually a viable theory. :p

Pie 01-25-2009 08:18 PM

Except that UG does have really good posts about food. That's the only place I've seen him rational, well-informed and interesting.

TheMercenary 01-25-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 526249)
Whenever UG goes really over-the-top, I have another one of my "On the Internet noone knows you're a dog" conspiracy theories that UG is an alter-ego of an existing Cellarite. That maybe s/he was going to use "Urbanana Gorilla" but decided that doing that would reveal the joke.

I do not believe that a real human being could consistently self-parody the way UG has on a primary account, even anonymously.

Maybe Brianna banned herself because she was unable to continue maintaining two Cellar accounts.;)

:lol2:

Urbane Guerrilla 01-26-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 526186)
Hell no. :headshake

That's because I think and I seek. What I find in the seeking tells me the Left ain't nowhere near to getting that quintessential "it" which makes a life worth the living. They don't have a lot in common with me. I have better ambitions than they, and it's not like there's only so much room over here by me: there's plenty left for you.

I know there's nothing so irritating as a good example, yet still a good example is the only one I can in conscience give, and the only one I'm going to.

Yeah, there's that Heinleinian remark, somewhere in Starship Troopers, about the guy who doesn't have social values worth having, doesn't want them, and will fight like hell to avoid them -- he thought such men really suck, and I agree.

Urbane Guerrilla 01-26-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie (Post 526386)
Except that UG does have really good posts about food. That's the only place I've seen him rational, well-informed and interesting.

But you forgot "tasty."

Urbane Guerrilla 01-26-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 526330)
Except for the Bri part, that is actually a viable theory. :p

Hee hee -- too bad for Shawnee's worldview that it founders on the fact that I'm realer even than Brianna; not all your piety or wit can efface a line or blot out a word of it, as Khalil Gibran said. As for the people who say "the man's doing a self-parody," they lack a certain breadth of imagination, and they are desperately kidding themselves in an attempt to remain wallowing in their savage and silly darkness of mind. Funny thing to pick over good and enlightened thinking. Doesn't engender a lot of respect for their intellectual powers, I must say. Does display an impressive degree of procrastination, if you're looking for impressive properties. :headshake

Shawnee123 01-26-2009 06:24 PM

Huh?


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