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lumberjim 10-28-2008 03:11 PM

the point i started off that last post to make, but forgot to was this:

The cops that are doing the actual searches will (because they do it every fucking day) begin to pick out people that look like they won't put up a big fight about the whole thing....and people that are obviously going to be easy to search. They don't really WANT to catch a terrorist, they just want to fill their quota and have an uneventful day, and get home to their tv set.

SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty and keep open containers of mayonnaise in your coat pockets. or sprinkle white powder around you if they try to select you.

SamIam 10-28-2008 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 498409)
Why, the Democratic Congress made it all possible, they are the ones who approved the laws that expanded the police powers of the country. You want Big Government, you are about to get it.

Hello? What are you? Four years old? The Congress and the excutive branch at the time of 9/11 were Republican. They remained Republican when all those happy new laws were passed which detract from our liberties. It is the Republicans who want to look in our windows and tell us what kind of sex to have. It is the Republicans who want to deny a 16 year old rape victim access to an abortion. Ever hear of the Evangelical Right? Get a grip, Merc. The Republicans are hardly the scions of civil rights that you seem to think they are. :eyebrow:

lumberjim 10-28-2008 03:16 PM

i think hitler was a republican

glatt 10-28-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 498511)
SO, glatt, try looking a little nutty

I'm good at that.

Pie 10-28-2008 03:29 PM

Get an EFF swat-team hat, or an ACLU sticker on your bag
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Aliantha 10-28-2008 05:24 PM

They do bag searches when you go to the cricket here. They're mostly looking for musical instruments and alcohol though. People who go to the cricket don't usually worry about trying to shoot or stab anyone. They just go to get rowdy and drunk.

lookout123 10-28-2008 06:00 PM

OK, so they are saying they're going to wand you and look in your bags before you can get on buses and trains?

1) With only 15 cops that sounds like a ridiculous waste of time.
2) Why is it a big deal? I "randomly" get flagged for searches every single time I fly, it isn't a big deal. You are asking to get on a crowded vehicle at which point they may or may not check to make sure you aren't carrying weapons. They aren't wandering around the streets stoppng random people are they?

*** quick note ***

I'm not saying you're wrong for being upset, I'm just saying I don't get it. You are asking to use a service and they have put a condition on the use of that service. Annoying and ineffective (as most government decisions are) but seemingly reasonable.

Elspode 10-28-2008 06:16 PM

Clearly, you all hate freedom. Well, except for Merc. :rolleyes:

jinx 10-28-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 498550)
Annoying and ineffective (as most government decisions are) but seemingly reasonable.

I don't think its reasonable.
How common are terroristic acts that it's reasonable to detain and search people without cause. You accept it before getting on an airplane, you'll accept it before getting on a bus, will you accept it before enter a mall or grocery store - how about exiting your house... when will it stop?

The more you fear (or hate, or think stupid) your neighbors, the more the government gets away with.

dar512 10-28-2008 06:47 PM

The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures.

There's a reason it's in there.

smoothmoniker 10-28-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 498514)
i think hitler was a republican

Nah ... he wasn't prolife.

ZenGum 10-28-2008 07:33 PM

That sucks.

Most of the reasons why have already been discussed.

I think it is time for some civil disobedience. I'm thinking of sit-ins around the bus depot to prevent them from moving, or something.

This is stupid paranoia. It has gone to far. It should be stopped and wound back.

:2cents:

TheMercenary 10-28-2008 08:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk

TheMercenary 10-28-2008 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 498513)
Hello? What are you? Four years old? The Congress and the excutive branch at the time of 9/11 were Republican. They remained Republican when all those happy new laws were passed which detract from our liberties. It is the Republicans who want to look in our windows and tell us what kind of sex to have. It is the Republicans who want to deny a 16 year old rape victim access to an abortion. Ever hear of the Evangelical Right? Get a grip, Merc. The Republicans are hardly the scions of civil rights that you seem to think they are. :eyebrow:

Hello? What are you? 2 years old? What are you? Four Years old? The Congress and the excutive branch for the last 2 years have been completely controlled by the demoncrats.

TheMercenary 10-28-2008 08:18 PM

Hey, YAFI..................


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