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SteveBsjb 10-17-2008 11:55 AM

All I can say is the title of this thread is 100% correct.

All's fair in love and politics. McCain should have had him fully vetted prior to using his name a dozen times in the debate.

Radar 10-17-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 494673)
Don't miss the point. Small business is going to take it in the shorts under an Obama economic plan.

2%-3% of small businesses make over $250k per year in profits. At that point, they aren't so small and they can afford it a bit more than those who are making $50k per year. I guess Obama is only better for the 97-98% who make less than that.

Shawnee123 10-17-2008 12:03 PM

Small businesses who make over $250,000 only comprise about, I think it was, 2 or 3 % of small businesses.

Remember the movie Wag the Dog? This is McCain's Good Old Shoe.

Gullible closed-minded people abound when it comes to falling for this mindless propaganda. I'd laugh if I didn't feel so damn sorry for them. ;)

Radar 10-17-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 494679)
Classic, lay the blame on the GOP. First Fox films the transaction, and then McCain uses it in the debate to slam Obama. I don't think there accidental about the whole thing.

There was no accident. Fox made sure they were there, and the Republicans put that guy there to ambush Obama on camera. I'm just happy Obama handled it with class, honesty, and integrity rather than telling the guy to fuck off as he deserved to be told.

barefoot serpent 10-17-2008 12:16 PM

Obamas plan is for a marginal tax increase of 3% over $250,000.

That is only $900 more for an income of $280,000.

Shawnee123 10-17-2008 12:17 PM

Shut up with your facts. I SPEET on your facts! :lol:

HungLikeJesus 10-17-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveBsjb (Post 494691)
... McCain should have had him fully vetted prior to using his name a dozen times in the debate.

I don't think they even did that with Sarah Palin.

glatt 10-17-2008 12:20 PM

If he runs the country the way he runs his campaign... :eek:

SteveBsjb 10-17-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 494705)
I don't think they even did that with Sarah Palin.

No, he definitely didn't.

SteveBsjb 10-17-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 494706)
If he runs the country the way he runs his campaign... :eek:

Get used to it. Politicians have to fight dirty in this country.

TheMercenary 10-17-2008 12:45 PM

Oh, hell, everyone has an extra $900 they can just pull out of the budget for the business. Might be smart to go ahead and fire at least one employee. Obama will take care of them.

bluecuracao 10-17-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 494696)
Small businesses who make over $250,000 only comprise about, I think it was, 2 or 3 % of small businesses.

Also, small businesses are able to claim quite a few tax write-offs, so a minimal tax increase would affect them even less.

Pico and ME 10-17-2008 12:49 PM

Come on Merc.

Its the profits that are taxed, isnt it? The money that is left after employees are paid.

bluecuracao 10-17-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 494717)
Oh, hell, everyone has an extra $900 they can just pull out of the budget for the business. Might be smart to go ahead and fire at least one employee. Obama will take care of them.

Being out $900 is not going to force any somewhat viable small business to fire anyone. Especially a small business that's making enough profit to be taxed an extra $900.

classicman 10-17-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 494698)
There was no accident. Fox made sure they were there, and the Republicans put that guy there to ambush Obama on camera.

Yeh - The picked a guy who isn't licensed, who owes back taxes "though officials admitted he might not know about the arrears." and only makes $40,000. Go get your foil hat and put a strap on it. It seems to have fallen off and allowed some harmful sun to bake whats left of your brain.


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