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Aliantha 10-15-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 494102)
Ali, just the Stupids. I talk down to 'em myself.

Well UG my friend, as you can probably guess, I'd be voting for Obama if I were a US citizen. Does that mean you think I'm a stupid too?

richlevy 10-15-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 494129)
Well UG my friend, as you can probably guess, I'd be voting for Obama if I were a US citizen. Does that mean you think I'm a stupid too?

Wait a minute. You said 'my friend'. Are you senile?

Aliantha 10-15-2008 11:18 PM

No, just stupid. ;)

xoxoxoBruce 10-15-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 494089)
I've never understood

Truer words were never spoken. :haha:

Radar 10-16-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy (Post 494126)
Kudos to Obama for trying to engage this guy. If someone had tried a similar tactic with Palin she would have shouted him down with "Sir bless you for exercising your right that my son is risking his life for and you need to think of your country first".

Joe the Plumber is an idiot. He was a plant from the McCain campaign sent there to ambush Obama. Obama handled it with class, dignity, and character as he always does.

In fact, I wish he would get down a dirty. Tonight McCain mentioned ACORN and Ayres. Two things that have no connection to the Obama campaign and are nothing but sleazy attempts to smear Obama. I was begging Obama from my screen to mention McCain's association with G. Gordon Liddy, or his close personal friendship with Charles Keating in which his entire family (including the babysitter) were flown to the Bahamas on Keating who was stealing money from Lincoln savings and loan. McCain was the most corrupt member of the Keating Five. Obama should have mentioned McCain's close association with a white supremacist named Richard Quinn, who found himself hired as a political advisor by McCain in 2000.


Obama is an honorable man, and I commend him for taking the high road, but I desperately want to see him take off his jacket and tie, roll up his sleeves and sling the same kind of mud that McCain is doing.

John McCain's campaign is straight out of Karl Rove's playbook. McCain has launched the largest and dirtiest smear campaign in the history of global politics. His supporters spread racist messages, outright lies, idiotic accusations about being Muslim, or not being patriotic, or things that don't matter like what his pastor or wife said. These sleezeballs doctor photos, lie about his hand over his heart during the pledge when the photo was taken during the song "America the Beautiful"...not the national anthem.

In every McCain campaign commercial they spread lies. They question his integrity and character. Obama sticks to the issues and tells the truth. That is refreshing for an American Presidential candidate.

The filthy lies and smears to attack Obama have obviously not worked for McCain because he's behind in the polls by double-digits. It would have been nice to see Obama get a few gut shots and finish the debates with a knockout instead of a unanimous decision.

glatt 10-16-2008 07:23 AM

I think McCain only said "My Friends" twice last night. Somebody must have talked to him about it.

Pie 10-16-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 494148)
Obama is an honorable man, and I commend him for taking the high road, but I desperately want to see him take off his jacket and tie, roll up his sleeves and sling the same kind of mud that McCain is doing.

He can win without it. Why take the risk?
It's exactly this sort of calculus that makes me support his presidency. I want someone who can weigh the pros and cons without emotion and chose the correct solution. If Spock were running, I would vote for him.

DanaC 10-16-2008 08:28 AM

I think it would be a big mistake for Obama to get down and dirty. Right now he is doing things differently and people seem to appreciate it.

Cloud 10-16-2008 08:38 AM

I certainly do. The man has class, whereas McCain comes across as a thug.

Shawnee123 10-16-2008 08:38 AM

I thought I was watching Sesame Street. Joe the Plumber. "These are the people in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood..."

I was squirming FOR McCain, every time he got pissy, rolled his eyes, snorted, and started breathing heavily and sighing. I thought he was melting before my very eyes. I was thinking "hold on there, John...wait, is your finger near the proverbial button?"

I like the fact that the person who will be representing our country can hold a conversation with class and dignity, and not be flustered when engaged in debate. Are these not important traits for a president?

DanaC 10-16-2008 08:43 AM

Yehbut...would you want to have a beer with him? I wouldn't. I'd much pefer a bottle of wine.

Pie 10-16-2008 08:45 AM

I'd smoke cigars and drink scotch with him.

Big Sarge 10-16-2008 08:50 AM

Radar,

You need to check you facts. I've noticed many of your posts are filled with incorrect information.

The Senate Ethics Committee determined that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly.

Sundae 10-16-2008 09:12 AM

There aren't many politicians I'd want to have a drink with.
Unless they were paying of course, and then - have at it!

Except Sinn Fein of course.
There isn't a brewery big enough to provide enough beer to get me to sit down with them.
I never really forgave Clinton for shaking Gerry Adam's hand.

classicman 10-16-2008 09:24 AM

Oh come on Sarge - Why would you interrupt his little tirade with facts ... thats no fun.


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