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classicman 10-07-2008 02:51 PM

I guess hanging around this guy is an example of "good judgment"

Pico and ME 10-07-2008 03:31 PM

OMG

Classic is regurgitating the current GOP campaign strategy play-by-play.

dar512 10-07-2008 03:43 PM

Fact check

Instead of recycling this same old stuff, convince me that McCain is a better man and has got a better plan.

glatt 10-07-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 490785)
OMG

Classic is regurgitating the current GOP campaign strategy play-by-play.

but he's a moderate. He said so.

Pico and ME 10-07-2008 03:56 PM

Nice angle, aint it.

Happy Monkey 10-07-2008 04:18 PM

He's a maverick moderate. He goes against the moderate grain!

BigV 10-07-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 490760)
I guess hanging around this guy is an example of "good judgment"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 490785)
OMG

Classic is regurgitating the current GOP campaign strategy play-by-play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 490796)
but he's a moderate. He said so.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 490807)
He's a maverick moderate. He goes against the moderate grain!

I disagree.

I think classicman is uncritically posting a lot of information he's being exposed to. He's being neutral (ish) in his receptive stance, but...

*BUT*

The content of what's coming across his field of view is strongly slanted in favor of the writer/sender/etc. LOTS of that kind of traffic these days. I get the sense that he's trying to sort truth from fiction. What I don't see is much of an internal sense of what's real and what's not. And the little I have seen does seem to have a republican tilt to it.

I can't say if this is because this is how he's wired politically or if it is just what he's relaying to teh cellar. I don't know.

Pico and ME 10-07-2008 06:45 PM

Very sensible perspective BigV.

TheMercenary 10-07-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 490871)
I disagree.

I think classicman is uncritically posting a lot of information he's being exposed to. He's being neutral (ish) in his receptive stance, but...

*BUT*

The content of what's coming across his field of view is strongly slanted in favor of the writer/sender/etc. LOTS of that kind of traffic these days. I get the sense that he's trying to sort truth from fiction. What I don't see is much of an internal sense of what's real and what's not. And the little I have seen does seem to have a republican tilt to it.

I can't say if this is because this is how he's wired politically or if it is just what he's relaying to teh cellar. I don't know.

You sound like my brother, who is 60, you are making excuses for the other camp as to why they disagree with you and why the other guy is wrong and you are right. Poppycock.

dar512 10-07-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 490927)
You sound like my brother, who is 60, you are making excuses for the other camp as to why they disagree with you and why the other guy is wrong and you are right. Poppycock.

What? Seriously. What?

Cicero 10-07-2008 09:36 PM

He said horse-pucky!! :)

classicman 10-07-2008 09:51 PM

My view is not slanted one way or the other, however I find that the majority here IS slanted one way and I am trying to find some information from neither of the extremes. I find it interesting that it appears to be "strongly slanted" in one direction.
I find it also interesting that anything posted here lately which isn't pro Obama is met with instant and strong disapproval and assumed to have a "republican slant."

I am a moderate and as I have repeatedly said [AND chastised for] I am not pro one or the other, but the overwhelming views of the cellar seems to have become an extension of one party and very biased.

classicman 10-07-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV (Post 490871)
I disagree.

I think classicman is uncritically posting a lot of information he's being exposed to. He's being neutral (ish) in his receptive stance, but...

*BUT*

The content of what's coming across his field of view is strongly slanted in favor of the writer/sender/etc. LOTS of that kind of traffic these days. I get the sense that he's trying to sort truth from fiction. What I don't see is much of an internal sense of what's real and what's not. And the little I have seen does seem to have a republican tilt to it.

I can't say if this is because this is how he's wired politically or if it is just what he's relaying to teh cellar. I don't know.


Perhaps from as far left as many of you seem to be everything I post seems to have a republican slant. Funny how when I talk to conservatives they all think my opinions have a liberal slant.
Thanks BigV at least you seem open minded enough to see where I am coming from - unlike so many others here. It must be so easy to just say anything from the other party is bad and tow the line. When you are in the middle you don't really have that luxury. I'm sorry that I'm not the best writer or communicator folks - I'm just sorting through all this as best I can to make an informed decision.

Pico and ME 10-07-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 490760)
I guess hanging around this guy is an example of "good judgment"

This guy was awarded the Citizen of the Year in 1997 by Chicago. Mayor Richard Daley called him "a valued member of the Chicago community."

xoxoxoBruce 10-07-2008 11:43 PM

From dar's link...
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Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and "passion for social justice."
Obama doesn't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. ;)


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