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smoothmoniker 09-12-2008 10:36 AM

"Peers" is meant in contrast to a juror class, professional or aristocratic jurors who hear all cases in a given jurisdiction. It does not mean "people in my racial, gender, income demographic."

classicman 09-12-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 483658)
Problem with jury selection in general or problem with this particular instance?

As I understand it, both sides have a say in the jury selection. If the defense thought they'd be better off with the alternates, I'd guess they'd have been selected.

Just with him I see a real potential problem brewing since in his first trial the race of the jury was overwhelmingly black and he got off. This time they will be white and IF he gets convicted, it will bring up a bunch of racial crap that we, as a nation, have been trying to decrease. I admit I am overly sensitive to this issue, but the makeup of this jury still rankles me.

dar512 09-12-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 483685)
the makeup of this jury still rankles me.

Either the original article is misstating the case, or the jury is lopsided. I suspect that it should have read "all non-black jury".

According to The Peoples of Las Vegas the black population stands at just 8.3% but the Hispanics make up 38.5%.

Can you explain why it rankles you and who you are rankled with? Or is this just a gut feeling?

Shawnee123 09-12-2008 01:49 PM

Gonna Get Me a Shotgun
Performed by Garrett Morris on 24 Jan 1976 SNL

I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see,
I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.
When I kill all the whities I see, then whitey he won't bother me,
I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.

classicman 09-12-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dar512 (Post 483729)
Can you explain why it rankles you and who you are rankled with? Or is this just a gut feeling?

Just that the jury is/ was described as "all white" - no mention of any other race, color, creed...

DanaC 09-12-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 483597)
But where are they going to find 12 black, ex pro football playing, sports commentating murderers?


That made me lol :)

FStop 09-12-2008 06:24 PM

Well....he was guilty the first time, I think.

footfootfoot 09-12-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawnee123 (Post 483733)
Gonna Get Me a Shotgun
Performed by Garrett Morris on 24 Jan 1976 SNL

I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see,
I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.
When I kill all the whities I see, then whitey he won't bother me,
I'm gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see.

What a memory!

Crimson Ghost 09-12-2008 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 483643)
How is race germane to the crime?

[Buford T. Justice]"The Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it!"[/Buford T. Justice]

Trilby 09-13-2008 08:29 AM

Do I see a problem with this?

No.

Elspode 09-13-2008 08:40 AM

It was probably pretty damn difficult to find *anyone* who didn't claim to be overexposed to his murder trial, or to the subsequent civil suit (which succeeded, BTW, so somebody somewhere thought he killed his wife and her boyfriend). The main criteria for selecting a jury for this case was that they didn't have a preformed opinion about him being a criminal. That sure would have left me out.

It might not be too big a stretch to imagine that it was difficult to find an African American who either was neutral or who didn't think that this was just one more case of Whitey keeping the brother down.

binky 09-13-2008 09:54 AM

Since when is OJ "the brother"? He is about as black as Bryant Gumbel.

Cicero 09-13-2008 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binky (Post 483907)
Since when is OJ "the brother"? He is about as black as Bryant Gumbel.

xtc "house parties" with a bunch of white folks don't count, I concur.
:D

TheMercenary 09-14-2008 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 483597)
But where are they going to find 12 black, ex pro football playing, sports commentating murderers?

Dallas Cowboys?

TheMercenary 09-14-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 483572)
The jury selection is complete and O.J. Simpson is to be tried by an all white jury.

I hear they were all tourists from the deep South.:3_eyes:


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