does no one think of really nasty sex fantasies? coz right before the ambien kicks in, I do. (think of sex fantasies, I mean. I don't literally KICK.)

Maybe if I weren't such a bore. That sounds better than the dry books I have been reading! I'll give that a try next time.

When I was working, going to school, and driving big miles I was too stressed out / wired to sleep. Eventually I got so I could identify and acknowlege what was eating me and I could sleep after clearing my mind and meditating on the nuthin'. Now I do the same thing as a nightly ritual after reading for a few minutes.

I used to take forever to fall asleep, usually not worrying about anything specific, just thinking about nothing in particular. Also, I have always been a very very light sleeper and I'd wake up every couple of hours at least. Once I went on a medication with a side effect of putting me into a very deep sleep, and I would wake up in the morning completely disoriented and confused because the last thing I remembered was laying down and now the whole night had passed.

Then I had babies. Now I can fall asleep anytime, anywhere that I am given the precious opportunity.

so...no one thinks of nasty sex fantasies...

it's just me, is it?

Sorry, chick.
Nasty sex fantasies keep me awake. And have a lousy habit of turning into stories which involve my current problems, unless I'm actually turned on.

"Knocking one out" is a great sleep promoter. Sadly on seroxat it's not a given.

In the face of sounding incredibly stupid: what is seroxat?

Paxil/ paroxetine?
Anti depressant - has different names.

Has an effect on many users sex drive. Inc mine - it just surfaces in my dreams!

When my body goes flat for the night my brain tears loose and my imagination parties in the wonderful world of hypnagogia. No worries or list-making, it's just a time of free association and random bursts of creative silliness. I enjoy it. But sometimes I wish I could turn it off and sleep well. Just once every other month or so would be nice.

I tried it a couple times, but the thought police kept trying to arrest me. It just wasn't worth it. (Besides, my wife got tired of hearing it.)
What are you reading?

When ever I have trouble getting right to sleep, I picture a marble on a table. the marble rolls off the table. then it rolls past something. sometimes i continue to watch the marble roll along, sometimes i take the tangent. the key is to take a passive roll in a visualization. works like a charm.

Sort of like that Honda commercial?

I'm an insomniac, you insensitive clod!

Well there's a list:
Boethius, "The Consolation of Philosophy" (3rd reading, love it)
Hannah Arendt, "The Life of the Mind" (3rd reading, love it)
Steven Pressfield, "The Tides of War"
William Faulkner, "Absalom, Absalom"
Susan Sonatg, "The Volcano Lover"
Sebastian Barry, "A Long Long Way"
Matthew Pearl, "The Dante Club" (love it so far)

I am going to highlight the books I don't like so far, in red. I am disappointed in Susan Sontag's attempt at fiction because I think all of her non-fiction is so wonderful and precise, but her fiction, not so much, so far.
:D
I am having trouble reading fiction from the young male perspective and attaching any worth or value to it. So Absalom Absalom may not be great for me, but someone else might love it, like the friend that I got it from.

The point being, none of these would make me sexual fantasy prone. In fact I'm the most into the detective story, Dante Club, but there is so much talk of maggots and the disposition of the dead body that, well...sometimes I fall asleep with an image of the body as it is in the story. I had a hope with the Volcano Lover, but again, I might give up on it forever. The clipped, internal dialouge, that is supposed to set a quick pace, annoys me instead, and so far is just too stupid for me to try and read.

is this a quote from some movie? i can't imagine you calling anyone an insensitive clod.