you've got to be the only person i've ever met who is proud of naperville. not that naperville is all bad, it just seems you're really proud of the joint.

I'm sorry fresh, I don't see 160K as much anymore. I've lived in small town Illinois (several), and I do know that news coming out of the high schools is big news there. The quarterbacks of the High School teams are also big news, as they are posted upon entering and leaving the towns. I also visited champaign during high school choir and soccer championships. We called it "cham-plain". lol sorry...

Chicago I'm afraid, cannot really be likened to the rest of Illinois in sophistication and in numbers. Which is why my friends from that state left places like that and went on in to Chicago and St. Louis after leaving High School or the University.

I've lived in small and large places fresh, and I will tell you, that small town is also an attitude that people carry, outside of the qualifiers and suspicious lack of real numbers that you also cited.

Chicago: somewhere around 2,000,000.
Aurora: somewhere around 170,000
Naperville: somewhere around 140,000 (according to city data)

Being the 3rd largest in a state of 12 mil. does not make you large. It also depends on how the population is dispersed.

But again, I thought Colorado Springs was a small town (to medium)when I lived there, and it was at 350 or 400,000.

Sorry to say it's a small town. But it's a small town. It's not exactly "city" material for those of us who have lived outside of the townships, and are in, or have lived in large cities in the united states and throughout the world. You might be surprised how small it is when you go elsewhere.

Give the guy a break ffs. I'm pretty sure he was just pointing out the town doesn't have a population of 1000 or so.

Now if I said the place I'm moving to is a small town it'd be pretty close to correct. There's only 650 people living there. In fact, it's no longer considered a township in its own right. It's classed as a suburb of the Gold Coast. It's not like the goldie though. That's almost a metropolis. Jacobs Well is definitely a small town.

So, 160,000 seems like a pretty large town to me.

Yes you would be right. That is small. lol!

I already pointed out at the tail-end of my post that it is perspectivist.

Don't placate him, he's a country bumpkin. :stickpoke

According to this, it's 4th largest. It is also considered a 'burb of Chicago which to me makes it a 'burb of Chicago...not a city. Anyhoo, this response is not plagiarized. ;)


-wikipedia

I saw the article on this and other follow up articles.
I think the point is how is the school district there supposed to uphold its regulations and principles for its students. The student could say "my principal plagiarizes, why are you punishing me for this?" It is hypocrisy for a school system that seems to pledge academic integrity to let a high standing official not be condoned. I assume there is very harsh punishments for students who plagiarize. And it sounded like the superintendent was OK with the apology, and wanted the whole thing to blow over. No, sorry, it's not that easy. The students, the parents, and the whole community I assume would lose trust in the public education process. I know I would.

Plagiarizing is a form of cheating. What kind of message is that sending to the students? And don't compensate with "oh but everyone cheats in the real world" because this is the educational process. It's one of the prime places kids learn their morals and values; through schooling.

The article said he apologized and made a mistake. Yeah, you did, a pretty huge one that threatens the integrity of the whole school district in your area, so let's hurry up and fire your ass because of it.

A Chicago Tribune Online Blog by Eric Zorn. http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news...?cid=116565692

I like teachable moments. Most offenders don't care to learn, but it's a good moment, just the same.

Nice. Not only did the principal plagiarize his speech at the graduation ceremony, it turns out the valedictorian did too.

Teachable moment is right. Maybe not Caudill and Su -- but others.

GODDAMNIT my school is gaining so much media attention and its rep is going down the crapper. There is absolutely NO REASON to plagiarize a Valedictorian speech which is only for the AUDIENCE not about a grade, getting into a school, or earning an award. HOLY SHIT what a dumbfuck.
Sorry, I'm pissed at how incredibly retarded the past graduation at my old high school has turned out.

Btw, the rumor is got rejected from Johns Hopkins and is attending the local community college for this...Stupid fuck. I took chemistry with him sophomore year when he was a freshman. How do stupid shits like this get to be valedictorian? Motherfucker...

do you know how much being valedictorian will mean 5 years after graduation? we're talking high school, not harvard, get over it.

Surely that's what mitigates it. In your shoes, I'd be a damn sight more annoyed had he plagiarised in order to get better grades and get onto college courses that other students had worked hard to gain.

Without wanting to put words into Fresh's mouth I think his point is that plagiarism is such a big issue in the environment that this Principal teaches, how could he possibly risk the accusation for something that otherwise wouldn't even be heard outside of the school. It shows he didn't have the scholastic ideal at heart.

[Brit ref] It's like Gordon Ramsey submitting a Tesco cake to a WI competition.[/Brit ref] It calls into question everything els ehe has said and produced.

Does it matter? It's the principle of things.
The whole act of plagiarism. Unnecessary. This thing could have all been avoided if they just wrote their speeches. Personal speeches, as shitty as they may come, are far better than a plagiarized speech that is caught. He'd still be principal, and the kid would be attending Johns Hopkins.

Yes high school means nothing after you reach college. But they still fucked up, big time.