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Radar 05-07-2008 11:39 PM

I vote on "This poll was made by a neocon moron who hates the principles America was built on"

Griff 05-08-2008 05:42 AM

If Hillary wins I'll probably vote Libertarian. Gravel and Barr have joined our usual field of no-names. I might look at Gravel, coming in from the left. War mongers are right out so Clinton/McCain are non-starters.

Radar 05-08-2008 12:01 PM

Hillary is done. She's just trying to recoup the 11 million dollars she lent to her campaign before she drops out.

elSicomoro 05-08-2008 12:57 PM

How is she going to do that, though? She blew through the $6 million...now she just gave herself $5 million more.

Radar 05-08-2008 02:14 PM

I didn't say she would be able to do it, I said she was trying to do it. I don't know many people who will donate to her campaign just so she can pay herself back. I think those who want to donate to a Democratic presidential campaign, want the money used to pay for radio & tv commercials, yard signs, bumper stickers, phone banks, campaign staff, speech writers, etc.

glatt 05-08-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar (Post 452066)
I think those who want to donate to a Democratic presidential campaign, want the money used to pay for radio & tv commercials, yard signs, bumper stickers, phone banks, campaign staff, speech writers, etc.

Not to mention access to her when she wins the Presidency.

Radar 05-08-2008 04:56 PM

Very true...which is why nobody will want to donate to her campaign since she has a snowball's chance in hell of winning her party's nomination let alone the presidency.

lookout123 05-08-2008 05:08 PM

That's right. Didn't you say it would take a live boy or a dead girl to keep Obama out of the White House?

Urbane Guerrilla 05-10-2008 05:23 AM

My big piece -- the one that's a repeating arm -- chambers 7.62 NATO.

The Democrats are still -- chronically -- the Party of Defeat. What lamebrain could want that? Time for them to go the way of the Whigs.

Making war upon ultra-statists like fascists cannot properly be conceived of as unlibertarian. To bring libertarianism to the places that will benefit the most from it -- the places that lack even the conception -- will require libertarian parties to grow claws and fangs and be skillful at using them. It's a matter of human instinct: the instinct to dominate the environment. People will fight like dogs to attain or retain power. Libertarians must prepare to outgeneral and outpunch that kind of opposition. Until then, the libertarians get nothing.


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