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Sundae 01-18-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 425410)
I don't believe we can, nor should we try. Maybe a better solution is to give them the education and choices required to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It would be a pretty cheap thing to do and much less expensive then having to pay for another welfare baby. Just my thoughts.

I thought you were being sarcastic when I read this. Then I realised it may not be the case in the US. Trust me, it doesn't work. We have the above and there are still people spawning recklessly and damaging another generation born into poverty, ignorance, bad parenting and all round stupid choices.

I suggest 3 year implants for every girl aged 14 unless there is a specific medical case against it. Okay, there are some who will get pregnant the day after it is removed, but at least they've had a chance to get through basic schooling by then.

Clodfobble 01-18-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl
I suggest 3 year implants for every girl aged 14 unless there is a specific medical case against it.

Good luck with that. It would never ever happen here, because it would "encourage" those precious little snowflakes to have sex. We just had a huge hubbub about a new vaccine to prevent cervical cancer--there were actually large numbers of people who did not want the vaccine given to 12-year-old girls specifically because the cause of this particular cancer is an STD, and thus giving it to them was just one more safeguard for their immorality.

Shawnee123 01-18-2008 10:39 AM

So true, Clodfobble. Incredibly sad and stupid and short-sighted (on their part), but true.

classicman 01-18-2008 11:08 AM

I third that thought!

Clodfobble 01-18-2008 11:10 AM

Fortunately in the end it passed, in Texas anyway. I don't know about other states. What it really came down to in the end is that our governor is more beholden to the pharmaceutical lobby than the religious lobby. Not the best of reasons, but I'm still glad it worked out the way it did.

TheMercenary 01-18-2008 11:22 AM

Well I will be saying a bit more than I want to about myself here but here goes any ways...

If you all have not figured it out, I work in the health care sector. Specifically I am a health care provider. That is all I want to say about that. I can tell you that a majority of people scam the system, in my limited experience of 30 years. It is not pretty. There is no easy fix. After a while you fold in on yourself and do the best you can for the people you care for, regardless of their personal situations or ability to pay, and in the end take care of yourself and your family to the best of your ability. Anyone have any experience slamming your head against a brick wall repeatedly? After a while all you get is a head ache, the brick wall only gets bloodied and remains indifferent.

classicman 01-18-2008 11:35 AM

wait - please. What passed? I missed it.

Flint 01-18-2008 11:46 AM

The "controversial" life-saving cervical cancer vaccine legislation.

BigV 01-18-2008 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 425406)
How do we convince poor and/or less educated people to stop reproducing? I'm actually being serious here.

What worked for you?

Trilby 01-19-2008 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 425581)
Well I will be saying a bit more than I want to about myself here but here goes any ways...

If you all have not figured it out, I work in the health care sector. Specifically I am a health care provider. That is all I want to say about that. I can tell you that a majority of people scam the system, in my limited experience of 30 years. It is not pretty. There is no easy fix. After a while you fold in on yourself and do the best you can for the people you care for, regardless of their personal situations or ability to pay, and in the end take care of yourself and your family to the best of your ability. Anyone have any experience slamming your head against a brick wall repeatedly? After a while all you get is a head ache, the brick wall only gets bloodied and remains indifferent.


Working in health care destroyed me. Literally. When I quit I felt like I needed to be de-briefed and get PTSD therapy. The more you care the more you're burned.

Cicero 01-19-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 425556)
Good luck with that. It would never ever happen here, because it would "encourage" those precious little snowflakes to have sex. We just had a huge hubbub about a new vaccine to prevent cervical cancer--there were actually large numbers of people who did not want the vaccine given to 12-year-old girls specifically because the cause of this particular cancer is an STD, and thus giving it to them was just one more safeguard for their immorality.



:D
Sundae and Clod:
No. It wouldn't work because:People like me would get pissed about mandatory reproductive laws falling on girls (again) and say they have had enough!! I'm tired of women having to be responsible for every goddamned thing. We have always bared the burden for every fucked up social problem there is....screw that suggestion let's toss it. Here's one.


One word:Vasectomies.

K?

When the guy gets married,becomes a certain age, or is certain he wants a baby, and stops sowing his seed all over the field...it can be reversed. Which is the cause of so many welfare babies. Guys are fucking and running, at alarming rates. "dat ain' mi bebby" So before we even think to inconvenience women again lets attack the problem from where it stems.

Who remembers the male "pill"? What in the hell happened to that?!? Where did it go, and why has it not been released?!? This is bullshit...I get so frustrated sometimes....:yelsick:

elSicomoro 01-19-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 425596)
What worked for you?

Damn, V...that was cold. ;)

I'm cut from a different cloth...I've never wanted kids, so I was religious about contraception.

monster 01-19-2008 08:04 PM

http://www.ppwp.org/education/progra...inkitover.html

A friend's daughter had one of these from school. They feel it worked...

DanaC 01-20-2008 06:33 PM

Well said Cic!

xoxoxoBruce 01-20-2008 06:39 PM

OK, then we'll stand on principle, just leave it the way it is, and let teenage girls continue to get pregnant and fuck up their lives


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