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Clodfobble 01-14-2008 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DucksNuts
How does Garlic help with colds? How does Evening Primrose Oil help with ya girlie probs? How does St Johns help with depression?

...From the context, I would have to assume you are presenting these as obvious examples of things that work. :eyebrow:

monster 01-14-2008 11:26 AM

Thanks, clod ... couldn't bring myself to...

lookout123 01-14-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud (Post 424273)
garlic helps with colds? That's a new one on me.

replace cold with "vampire" and you will see positive results fo sho.

DucksNuts 01-14-2008 06:10 PM

yeah whatever

lookout123 01-14-2008 06:55 PM

you knows i loves ya.

classicman 01-14-2008 07:08 PM

Garlic helps reduce the spread of colds because it keeps people from being in close contact with each other due to the atrocious breath it generates. just sayin...

DucksNuts 01-14-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 424474)
you knows i loves ya.

Wasnt directed at you honey ;)

jinx 01-14-2008 08:57 PM

How does Tylenol reduce fever?

monster 01-14-2008 10:02 PM

It doesn't, in my experience. Acetamenophen reduces pain by inhibiting the pain receptors. sometimes permanently -my colleague when I was a postgrad described very eloquently how brain cells appear to "pop" when under the influence of the drug. Fun. If that's how it works, I'll take the beer option :)

I love this helpful description from the tylenol website:

How does Tylenol work?

Quote:

Acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol products, is thought to relieve mild to moderate pain by elevating your body's overall pain threshold. Acetaminophen is thought to lower your fever by helping your body eliminate excess heat.
Oh right! makes perfect sense now.....

But more seriously, Acetomenophen does work to kill pain for me (if I'm really desperate -I prefer not to take it), but Arnica doesn't seem to and i thought I'd understand why or why I didn't notice the effect better if I knew how it worked.

and going off at a tangent......
I hate the way that homeopathic seems to be used as a synonym for "we can't explain how it works". Arnica does not cause bruising and swelling when appliesd in excess, (?does it?) therefore it's not technically a homeopathic remedy

jinx 01-14-2008 10:14 PM

Did you read the wiki on arnica (helenalin)?

monster 01-14-2008 11:19 PM

No, I didn't, thanks. interesting, but woefully incomplete. it amazes me that so many people feel it is an effective remedy and yet there is (comparitively) so little research. No $$ in it, I guess. (I mean this in the why isn't there more research rather than the why do they feel it is effective sense)

Re-reading, I realise I come across as totally ant-arnica, anti-alternative etc. and I'm not at all. I have arnica gel. I just didn't notice any effect, except that the gel made the icepack stick too much... Well OK maybe I am a bi anti -but I'm anti everything until i see proof. Ish. but I try most things too, unless I see proof that they're more harmful than good. I'm certainly not in the Rx drugs only camp.

jinx 01-15-2008 09:47 AM

I don't think you came across that way monster, just seemed like you were asking questions.

ZenGum 01-15-2008 09:58 AM

Am I the only one who thinks that Arnica sounds like the name of the new nation that will form from the southwestern third of the USA after the Second American Civil War later this year?

lookout123 01-15-2008 02:50 PM

I'm afraid you are mistaken. John Titor gave no clear indication that this would come about.

http://www.cafepress.com/johntitorshop

TheMercenary 01-17-2008 08:31 PM

Acetaminophen (Tylenol) works by inhibiting the synthesis of prostaglandins in the central nervous system and peripherally blocks pain impulse generation through an unknown mechanism. It's antipyretic effect is due to an inhibiting action in the hypothalamus heat regulation center in the brain.


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