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slang 12-27-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 418963)
....MANCHESTER, N.H. - Hillary Clinton predicted Saturday that just electing her President will cut the price of oil....

I wonder if birds will stop crapping on my car if she's elected? Hey, seems like she can do everything else, why not. :lol:

HumanBeast 12-29-2007 02:22 PM

Everybody hates her, including SNL.

xoxoxoBruce 12-29-2007 02:24 PM

The polls show that's obviously not true. While they may consider her the lesser evil, they clearly don't hate her.

piercehawkeye45 12-29-2007 11:09 PM

Hating Hilary for her tactics is the same as hating Bush for our foreign policy. Hilary is just a product of the American politics system. She will do anything to get anyone's vote, she is just more open and extreme about it. Our foreign policy hasn't been much different before Bush but he just made it more open and extreme, and we act like it is all his fault. If either of them left, someone will jump up and take their place.

This will probably only get worse by the election. If someone tries to be elected president without using bullshit tactics, they won't win.

Griff 12-30-2007 07:11 AM

There is a nice Obama piece in Sports Illustrated. The writer played one on one bball with him to get at his character. His take was that Obama plays hard, plays to win, but importantly doesn't play chippy and doesn't get ticked when someone else does. Oh and he has a nice jumper.

classicman 01-05-2008 03:31 PM

A Campaign Retools to Seek Second Clinton Comeback

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MANCHESTER, N.H. — Billary Clinton have been in career-threatening scrapes before, but never quite like the one they face in the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday, when nothing less than their would-be dynasty will be on the line.

In trying to battle back from her loss in the Iowa caucuses to Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, Mrs. Clinton is recalibrating her message in hopes of producing Comeback Kid: The Sequel — achieving the reversal of fortune her husband pulled off with his second-place finish here in the Democratic nomination contest in 1992.

Mrs. Clinton, after arriving here at 4 a.m. Friday, used a rally in Nashua to begin focusing on young voters and independents, two groups that flocked to the Obama banner in Iowa. She said she wanted to appeal to young people, and surrounded herself with them at the rally, in contrast to her caucus night party where older, familiar faces from the Clinton administration and her political team stood out.

Yet many of the challenges and questions she faced in Iowa — like Clinton fatigue and the generational showdown with Mr. Obama — remained part of her baggage as she flew east. While she is ahead in public polls here, she faces a popularity contest against Mr. Obama. There were empty seats, for instance, at a rally Mr. Clinton held with students at the University of New Hampshire on Friday afternoon.

And her campaign, while trying to fine-tune its strategy, is also engaging in some finger-pointing. Some advisers say that the campaign miscalculated in having Mr. Clinton play such a public role, that Mrs. Clinton could not effectively position herself as a change agent, the profile du jour for Democrats, so long as he stood as a reminder that her presidency would be much like his. Other advisers say that Mr. Obama now owns the “change” mantra and that Mrs. Clinton needs a Plan B.

Hillary says she’ll change things, but then voters see Bill and hear them talk about the 1990s, and it’s clear that the Clintons are not offering change but rather Clinton Part 2,” said one veteran adviser to both Clintons. “That won’t win.”


I, for one, certainly hope not.


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