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Ibby 11-24-2007 09:48 PM

HavenT you ever looked aT an alphabeT before?
They're jusT gianT T's!

Clodfobble 11-24-2007 09:58 PM

"t... t... time to leave?!"

xoxoxoBruce 11-25-2007 05:37 PM

I guess we'll have to take down all those cross looking street signs. Maybe write the street names on the vertical pole and just eliminate the cross bar.

TheMercenary 11-26-2007 10:40 AM

I have no problem with them. But I do think they should consider modifying the crosses for troppers who were shot or for people who had been killed because of someone elses bad deed and allow the offender to be hung on them until dead and allow their bodies to rot on the roadside for all to see. That would be cool.

ZenGum 11-26-2007 10:53 AM

Ahhh, a bit of old-fashioned crime deterrence eh?
I don't know if it really works, but I recall a story about a chap who was hanged (probably for piracy) and his body strung up somewhere in the Thames estuary. It was there so long it became a navigation point and was marked on maps.
Can anyone confirm, or provide details or corrections?

Sundae 11-26-2007 10:56 AM

I'll have a look, but they generally drowned pirates, by chaining them to the Wapping Steps. I seem to remember that they left them there for 3 tides, and if they survived that they were pardoned. Which is just black humour because the steps are fully submerged at each tide.

ETA I was a little off course:
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Pirates and thieves also flourished. Pirates would ambush ships coming into the area and also steal outgoing cargoes. If you look opposite you can see the Captain Kidd pub, named after the famous pirate executed at Execution Dock in 1701. Execution Dock was located by the Thames near to this pub and dealt with convicted pirates for over 400 years. Pirates who operated on the seas and abroad would also be tried back in London.

The gallows were located by the Thames so that the tide could wash over the body three times. More notorious pirates, including Kidd, were left to hang in a gibbet, a type of metal cage, to deter other would be criminals.
And further:
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Captain Kidd himself was a Scottish ship-owner in New York during the end of the 17th century. After spending some time as a privateer (hunting and capturing pirates) he turned to the trade himself. He was arrested and charged with piracy and executed in 1701 at Execution Dock, Wapping. During the execution the rope broke and he was hanged on the second attempt. Afterwards, his body was left until it had been washed by the traditional three tides. After tarring his corpse was taken to Tilbury Point on the Essex side of the Thames, and hung in chains as a deterrent to other pirates.

rkzenrage 11-26-2007 02:40 PM

If a billboard was places at a prominent intersection stating that _____ number of officers have been killed/____ number of drivers have been killed by drivers that shot them/drunk drivers/drivers that ran red-lights I would have no issue with it.
In no way is stating that this is a breach of church and state an ad hominem argument, it is on topic and accurate.

lookout123 11-26-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 409919)

bravo bullitt. not only did you take the time to snag and post the image... you also waited for it to be situationally appropriate.:rolleyes:

rage - i think you might have missed the point. he was referencing your need to fluff up your argument with a personal insult directed at Ibram.

rkzenrage 11-26-2007 02:48 PM

Too bad it was incorrectly used... would have been funny then.
The signs and where they are place is a breach of church and state and he cannot understand that, both are accurate and logical.

lookout123 11-26-2007 02:57 PM

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as usual, you've missed it. thanks for playing Who Wants To Be Oblivious? /Regis Philbin/

rkzenrage 11-26-2007 03:02 PM

I did not miss it, it was just incorrect and did not deserve anything else.

Now, for those who have the ability to stay on-topic.
Again, what is wrong with a cemetery? Is that not the appropriate place for mourning the dead if you feel you need a public place to do so?
Want to do more, buy time on television or a billboard.
Public land is not the place.

lookout123 11-26-2007 03:04 PM

QUICK! name 5 things that don't get your panties in a twist. we'll wait.

rkzenrage 11-26-2007 03:07 PM

There was no emotion, in any way, in my post.
You are incorrect as usual.
Edit:
I do care about the health of my nation and those who wish to degrade the rules and laws of this nation that make it great only make me wish to enforce that which disables them from doing so.
The more the separation of Church and state degrades and those in power feel that superstition belongs in the public square the worse off this nation is... we went to war with a nation that was not a threat in ANY WAY and we had no business doing so, illegally, because god told our idiot of a president to do it.
He is delusional and should have been impeached on that alone. Hearing voices is a clear indication of insanity and he should have been treated as such.
Placing giant crosses on public land is a clear breech of church and state and that people think that there is something wrong and disrespectful for saying so is ridiculous.
It is simply not the place.
As I stated, buy a billboard, a commercial or, better yet, have your memorial service and cemetery plot like everyone else.
What is your issue with these statements?
You are the one who follows me through the board and cannot stay on topic, cannot directly answer simple questions about the issue.
But, instead, just wants to try to insult me, feebly... which is funny, don't get me wrong, you are a joke and I get it, but not one that is about the topics.
Don't like the thread, directly refute them or stay out.
Got a problem with me personally, post in LJ's whine thread, start your own or PM me like someone with a brain who can discern the place and time for your behavior.
I used to want you to stop stalking me, but now it just gets more pathetic, sadder and funnier as you do it instead of actually posting something worthwhile, starting real threads, doing anything other than amuse me.
Keep dancing clown.

lookout123 11-26-2007 03:11 PM

and as usual you have resorted to being a weak imitation of TW.

Kitsune 11-26-2007 03:14 PM

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I applaud and support any community that outlaws roadside memorials for ANY reason.
They are pollution.

The state puts these up, the applicant pays for them. No one seems to mind.


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