Well, in some ways yes, in some ways no. They are not as strong as they'd hoped to be at this stage (like most fringe parties with an underlying revolutionary tendency). They never get anywhere in national politics, but they do get a few (very small number) of council seats in the local elections. We had three on our council up to last year we're down to one now :P They tend to cause trouble f they have an area they're strong in. Generally, these tend to be either in areas that are almost entirely white working class usually with a nearby 'asian area'. Or...little englanders in leafy middle class villages.

The ones who actually stand for office aren't so much of a problem, it's their supporters and activists. And their leaders of course. One of whom told his party activists that the battle for the hearts and minds of the North (where they were starting to make a bid for council seats) would be 'won with boots and fists on the streets of Burnley".

These days they're more careful. They walk a fine line between what is legal and illegal. Occassionally one of em steps on the wrong side of that line. What's more worrying than they themselves, is how many more people are openly supportive of them, even if tghey won't vote for them. They may detest the nazi elements, but they do agree on the racist policies.

They only an electoral threat in a few places and then, really at a local level. They're a threat to me, as they have a sizable presence in the ward I represent. In fact my getting back involved in party politics was as a way of fighting their rise in my borough. When i won my election, they were less than 100 votes behind me. They didn't do quiote as well last year.

Reason they tend to bring a pub down? Because the grass roots activists aren't always so easy to persuade away from the less savoury aspects of their politics:P

I say damn the PC! Keep the picture and change the name of the place to "The Bunker"! :D

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They should get one of these in the new bar -

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Just don't drink straight from the source. :eek:

I shan't ask where the Toblerones are....

It says John Masefield. If they could not figure that out I would not want those idiots in my bar.

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On the Far Right theme the BBC reports that (heavily edited version follows):


Wow, an international coalition of far right nationalists fell apart :lol: Who'd a-thunk it?

I remember when David Duke ran here in the US and almost became governor of Louisiana.

David Duke might be the one responsible for the "kindler gentler bigotry" approach of the BNP.

I adore John Masefield, damn them if they change the sign.
Just because he had the misfortune to follow a silly fashion in facial hair doesn't stop me enjoying Cargoes or Raymond's Last Run.

I don't have a problem with Wetherspoons either - they're cheap!
Okay, so I do have a problem if the fact they are cheap means more individual pubs have to close, I'd rather have the choice of a big faceless barn with cut price food and drink when I'm poor, and a cosy Freehouse where the landlord remembers what I drink when I have more funds.

Tink - the problem with the big chains is that if they take over too many pubs the whole point of a pub crawl disappears. You might as well stay in one anonymous place all night, rather than haul your bones to the next one which looks just the same.

I once dated an Army captain with a mustache like that. I didn't notice that he looked hitleresque, until a friend of mine pointed it out...and then there was no going back, of course.

Oh damn those friends when they 'point things out'.

Yes, there's a good head on that beer...

Oh yea.. just take ALL the fun out of it for me.
The tit cup is a nice touch, too. The guy who designed this thing must be rollin' in it.

Yep...Nothing like beer and good head.:beer: :bj2: